Multi questing still going strong... so says the economy?

[Nordenwatch]

money camps like seb cannot be NBG, otherwise there would be no non melees camping certain camps... also casters get shafted on NBG because many items that are worth a lot of money that a caster may need can be needed by most classes, obvious example here being a hierophant's cloak.

also who draws the distinction of who NEEDS something? lets say a RBG drops in seb, and a caster would get a stat upgrade from it and decides he/she deserves to need it. The melees in the NBG group would be furious because of the haste on it, but if it is an upgrade can they still need it?

This is why NBG is nonexistant outside of guild groups, if you want the item so bad offer the winner of the roll plat for it.

[Kratzy]

So, you have no casters that you've been nice enough to, that they want to join you in a camp for gear you can use and experience of the fun of grouping with you? So sad.

I have camped frenzy... as an enchanter, and I don't expect to get an FBSS. I have camped Cloaked Dhampyre, and not expected to get a HBC. I play for fun and to get higher level, anything you can camp, can drop loot. You get better groups when people have better gear, people have better gear when they don't have to stop and camp pp to buy something. This is EverQUEST after all.

I am not in a guild, and don't expect to be treated as less qualified for gear upgrades because I am un-guilded.

[Psionide]

Why wouldn't you expect to get a fbss you can go sell it and get some GEBS or something. Also, nobody said you be would treated bad because you were unguilded they said you join a guild and get a guild group if you expect NBG.

[sedrie.bellamie]

obv OP is talking about pipes for monk quests. Sorry other players want to make plat from camping certain mobs. This monk whining for a pipe is the same as any cleric/mage that gets a mark of karn/call of the hero random on and they loose.

Sometimes you win /random sometimes you loose at /random.

Just play more.

[sedrie.bellamie]

let's say a pipe drops from pawbuster in KC. Everyone /random for it and let us say that a ranger wins the role. That ranger could sell the MQ for mabye 10-25k nowadays. That ranger could maybe buy a Tolans BP for that, or several pieces of armor or weapons. How is that ranger not suppose to roll on an item if selling that item makes their character better?

If not a ranger, then it could be any class. If that random class can use the plat to make themselves better by buying spells and items then more power to them.

Let us say a mage wins the pipe and sells it for 15k and buys a COTH for 15k. Then that mage is a better mage for winning a pipe. That mage is more useful in groups and soloing. How else is that mage going to get better? Somtimes a big pa day like getting a pipe to sell for MQ, or even at lower levels selling jboots for 5k, that might make the player enough plat to make their character better.

[Nordenwatch]

i believe everyone puts in the same time and arguably same effort to camp things when you're grouped. theres no reason one person should get something purely because they "Need" it more than others, not to mention the room for abuse in a NBG system.

rolling dice is luck, over time it should even out.

[Kratzy]

I wouldn't expect to get an FBSS, because if the tank in my group or the monk in my group can hit harder and faster, then we can kill more, more easily. If you can kill more easily, you can get loot more easily. If you help the tank, maybe next time that tank will let you know if theres room in a group that can use my skills. I don't need to take loot to make money in this game. I will take the loot no one wants and quest the rest of the items and sell those things in the game. I've made Lambent and Crafted pieces, that i cannot use, simply to sell them as profit since it was a no drop item and no one wanted it. I do not need the item others can use immediately to proceed in the game.

If I "HAVE" to join a guild to get NBG groups then this server is a sad sad place. Sad that 6 people can't get together and have a positive experience. I have been given loot in groups that didn't have to pre-announce NBG because I could use it. I have also passed along what I was wearing in that slot to anyone in the group who could use it as an upgrade, so two people can get upgraded at the same.

Again, so sad so many don't understand the social aspect of community gaming.

[Houdiny]

Originally Posted by Kratzy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I wouldn't expect to get an FBSS, because if the tank in my group or the monk in my group can hit harder and faster, then we can kill more, more easily. If you can kill more easily, you can get loot more easily. If you help the tank, maybe next time that tank will let you know if theres room in a group that can use my skills. I don't need to take loot to make money in this game. I will take the loot no one wants and quest the rest of the items and sell those things in the game. I've made Lambent and Crafted pieces, that i cannot use, simply to sell them as profit since it was a no drop item and no one wanted it. I do not need the item others can use immediately to proceed in the game.

If I "HAVE" to join a guild to get NBG groups then this server is a sad sad place. Sad that 6 people can't get together and have a positive experience. I have been given loot in groups that didn't have to pre-announce NBG because I could use it. I have also passed along what I was wearing in that slot to anyone in the group who could use it as an upgrade, so two people can get upgraded at the same.

Again, so sad so many don't understand the social aspect of community gaming.

I agree with this 100% We all want higher population on the server because overall it makes it a better place. When a game is this old the people that are left playing it continue to play it because they enjoy it. The newness wears off a game and many people bolt. Most every group I have been in has been NBG. I imagine when I am in 50+ groups and higher end items are dropping things will change unfortunately.

The ironic part is if everyone was NBG the chances of someone already having the loot increase dramatically. Therefor making more greed rolls. I realize that you can take an item and sell it for something you need. But when you random on 25 RMB's to make up for the price of an FBSS where does one draw the line?

As for looting quest items that are MQ'able for a guildmate, that is wrong on so many levels. Unless it's a greed roll any quest items should go to any members of the group first

[Kratzy]

Rolling dice is luck? Should even out?!?!?

Okay let me regale you with an experience from back in my live days:::

Paladin lvl 65 killed frenzy..... hmmm...... not exaggeratting at least 150 times. Rolled on every one. NEVER got an FBSS...... That sound even'd out to you?
I always loved when you replace one person with a new one, then the next spawn is frenzy, they roll and win, and ta da now they have to camp....

So everyone putting in equal time in camps is also BS.

[fullmetalcoxman]

Originally Posted by Kratzy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Rolling dice is luck? Should even out?!?!?

Okay let me regale you with an experience from back in my live days:::

Paladin lvl 65 killed frenzy..... hmmm...... not exaggeratting at least 150 times. Rolled on every one. NEVER got an FBSS...... That sound even'd out to you?
I always loved when you replace one person with a new one, then the next spawn is frenzy, they roll and win, and ta da now they have to camp....

So everyone putting in equal time in camps is also BS.

And I'm sure that one very extreme example you provided is the rule and not the exception.

I'm sure people in NBG groups have never been awarded an item and then turned around and sold it. Sorry dude, not everyone plays like you. Some people think rolling is the fairest way to distribute items.