Epic Piece Camp Rules

[triad]

Originally Posted by Trystych [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It is not difficult to redo the pearl to summon ragefire. Nor is ragefire particularly difficult. If you don't think you can kill it within 20 minutes then you have no business turning in the pearl.

again not all of us care or need the ego boost to be apart of the "top guilds" and enjoy a challange even if it means wiping a few times ..... oh suprise its an IB member

[guppers]

There is an issue that I havn't seen addressed and I'd like clarification. WHat if I'm in najena clearing the whole thing at 52, and another 52 mage comes in. I've had this happen and the mage said I could only claim one camp and he went around killing literally everything else. When I said I think we should divide it in half he said unless I was sitting in front of something it was first tag first kill. So I can claim one thing and if the other guy is faster than me he literally gets the whole rest of the zone? What if he's a bard he gets to kite as much stuff as he wants except for one camp?

sry!! accidentally posted this in wrong thread

[DoucLangur]

Originally Posted by Amelinda [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

4. We do not have a rule for how a camp will be handed off to another player. It is recommended the player interested in obtaining a camp work that out with who is on the camp already.

It is up to whoever currently holds a camp as to who they hand that camp to. Just because you sit and wait does not mean that you get the camp next. The current player can hand the camp to whoever s/he wants to. BUT may not deceive you. If you can prove that s/he deceived you then we can do something. If you can't prove that via Screenshot then we can't help :/

While the other rules make sense, for this one here common sense went out the door. This has been excessively abused to cockblock people from getting pre-nerf items on kunark release, and if anything, then a camp should allow people to get in line by being present at the camp.

I.e. if I arrive at camp X, with one person camping it and no one around, then the camp is mine when that person leaves/wipes.

There is absolutely no reason why a player camping a certain item should have the right to decide who should be able to camp the item next, *after* they got theirs.

With all due respect, I would like to see this policy changed to something along the lines of "when you get to a camp that is occupied, you can for ma queue / get into the queue behind the other persons already present.

For camps that are also group camps, this is of course a bit different, as people can choose who to invite into their group. But in most cases that we're talking about, the person (and their friends, if present) who is currently camping a mob intends to leave after (s)he gets the drop in question.

Kind regards

Slozem

[fischsemmel]

Originally Posted by DoucLangur [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This has been excessively abused to cockblock people from getting pre-nerf items on kunark release, and if anything, then a camp should allow people to get in line by being present at the camp.

It's not an abuse of game mechanics; it's just how the game mechanics work.

Games like EQ reward people who are online more often, who are members of larger guilds that are full of people who are online more often, who are more knowledgeable about how the game works, and/or who are lucky.

If someone is allegedly cockblocking others from getting gear by getting a camp before the others, holding that camp until they get their drop, and then keeping that camp in a guild or circle of friends... dude, they are doing everything they are supposed to do in order to be rewarded by an MMO. They mmodeserve the drops.

[Mylozen]

Originally Posted by DoucLangur [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

While the other rules make sense, for this one here common sense went out the door. This has been excessively abused to cockblock people from getting pre-nerf items on kunark release, and if anything, then a camp should allow people to get in line by being present at the camp.

I.e. if I arrive at camp X, with one person camping it and no one around, then the camp is mine when that person leaves/wipes.

There is absolutely no reason why a player camping a certain item should have the right to decide who should be able to camp the item next, *after* they got theirs.

With all due respect, I would like to see this policy changed to something along the lines of "when you get to a camp that is occupied, you can for ma queue / get into the queue behind the other persons already present.

For camps that are also group camps, this is of course a bit different, as people can choose who to invite into their group. But in most cases that we're talking about, the person (and their friends, if present) who is currently camping a mob intends to leave after (s)he gets the drop in question.

Kind regards

Slozem

I agree with this completely. While several of the rules do obviously favor the larger guilds this one is just ridiculous. It's basically stating that by being at a camp not only is it yours for the duration of you being their but you are allowed to assign the future of it as well? Now I could see filtering in replacements, but if a group had been waiting for a camp and they just call in a new group of their friends to take over after they are done makes no sense at all.