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Old 08-10-2012, 01:50 PM
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Is the PvP on Everquest actually decent? It seems more like a PvE game that had PvP sprinkled on.

If I joined I'd probably be an Iksar Monk. Would I get stomped by the good guys all the time or is it kind of rare to actually see people there? What kinds of things would I have to learn in order to succeed?
Its not good vs evil on this server. You make your own friends and your own enemies.

For me the PvP is really good in a group v group setting. 1v1 stuff usually ends up being a slaughter b/c one person was attacked while lom fighting a mob or something.

This is my first pvp server myself and I like the pvp more than I thought I would. I do not seek out fights for the sake of fighting, but I like the option if I want to fight for a camp or get revenge on someone.

Things to know(at least the stuff I have learned so far) -

Make friends. If you try to solo all the time you are going to be really frustrated by random ganks when you are low on hp unless you pick a really remote unpopular place to fight or predominantly play from 3am-10am est.

Buy pummice(vendor 5 charge nullify magic for 15pp). you can use this dispell your opponents buffs dispell root or snare if they land it on you or your group.

Check /who often. You always want to know who is in zone. It is also good to have an idea who is who, pay attention to what class a player is so you can prepare accordingly if they zone in. Also good to know who are the type to be looking to pick a fight and who are the type who might just be there to get xp and only fight if you step in their way. Once you are in a guild friends/enemies usually are pretty well defined.

Practice jousting - staying on top of a person meleeing is often not the best option, nor is it easily done since they will be trying to avoid you some of the time. I have never really played a melee pvp so I am not going to elaborate on how to do this, but I'm sure others can offer input.
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Old 08-10-2012, 01:57 PM
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lots of stuff about PvP in the "non PvP" section

hmm...
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Old 08-10-2012, 02:25 PM
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lots of stuff about PvP in the "non PvP" section

hmm...
Ya I was reading this and was thinking hell ya! Then I see pvp server and that ruined it lol quickly closed out the window.
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Old 08-10-2012, 03:20 PM
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Lemme repeat so I don't get another poor response to a point I wasn't making.

On the whole, EQ is far less gear dependent than other mmos. Especially in a PvP setting.

Now take a fresh max-level character in EQ and compare a max-level character who has had time to gear up in terms of their PvP potential. Do the same for other MMOs. The relevance of your attempt to find the most extreme case vanishes when compared to its greater context.
So your telling me a caster in cloth would stand a chance against a 200+ MR melee? It's also not like you can just roll out in pve gear and own everyone. You need the right set of gear for pvp to even stand a chance to anyone unless it's like pvp below level 40. In wow any pvp under the max level gear doesn't matter much also. So yes anything BUT endgame pvp gear doesn't mean anything at all.


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Also just the fact that a melee needs high MR to stand a chance to any caster makes endgame pvp very gear dependent. Being rooted and snared every 5sec isn't what I call fair pvp so now I need to farm up MR so I can even get a hit in.
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Old 08-10-2012, 03:28 PM
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Its a way to add immersion and dynanism to a MMO.

scenario:

Paladin strolls through Oasis of Marr, patrolling the region, protecting it from Evil.

Troll SK comes up from the swamps, lurks near the beach looking for prey....

Paladin spots the evil beast and draws his sword and.......

(on blue) makes rude gestures to the troll while troll ignores him

(on red) a titanic battle between light and dark ensues.. holy vs unholy...who shall win? (blue)

I wish it was always like this and JUST this..But then after the kill the rest of the community is forced to endure or to attempt to ignore the next possible 5-30 min of immature banter that almost always ensues after the kill. So many "are you mad bro?'s"...makes me cringe. Would be great to kill the person take the coin and move on....but most folks must have that extra validation of humiliating the person at the keyboard using /ooc. If humiliation is your thing then use /tells. Leave me out of your childish antics.

BTW i do play on Red about half my time, and it is a lot of fun...just cant stand global /ooc though i see its benefits but also the drawbacks like I just described.

Looking forward to the xp bonus.
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Old 08-10-2012, 03:31 PM
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I wish it was always like this and JUST this..But then after the kill the rest of the community is forced to endure or to attempt to ignore the next possible 5-30 min of immature banter that almost always ensues after the kill. So many "are you mad bro?'s"...makes me cringe. Would be great to kill the person take the coin and move on....but most folks must have that extra validation of humiliating the person at the keyboard using /ooc. If humiliation is your thing then use /tells. Leave me out of your childish antics.

BTW i do play on Red about half my time, and it is a lot of fun...just cant stand global /ooc though i see its benefits but also the drawbacks like I just described.

Looking forward to the xp bonus.
Have you never played a PVP game before?? They don't always attract the nicest people.
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Old 08-10-2012, 05:37 PM
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So your telling me a caster in cloth would stand a chance against a 200+ MR melee? It's also not like you can just roll out in pve gear and own everyone. You need the right set of gear for pvp to even stand a chance to anyone unless it's like pvp below level 40. In wow any pvp under the max level gear doesn't matter much also. So yes anything BUT endgame pvp gear doesn't mean anything at all.


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Also just the fact that a melee needs high MR to stand a chance to any caster makes endgame pvp very gear dependent. Being rooted and snared every 5sec isn't what I call fair pvp so now I need to farm up MR so I can even get a hit in.
Casters have to use what they can to their advantage. You usually want to be able to at least start casting your spells while you aren't being hit. The chance of breaking casting is pretty low (5% chance to push per hit and channeling still recovers), especially if your melee opponent is wielding a 2h or doesn't have spell haste. Casters can always outdps a melee if they are getting their spells off. You have to use your environment, stand in the right places like corners or elevated areas using levitate. Also, casters have even more chances on red as with a full set of mr gear, you still get rooted once in a while. Hopefully Null will come to understand that a good caster that uses the tactics above doesn't need to land roots on an melee who sacrificed all their dps (50-100 str) to boost their MR to 120.

Beyond that, you just have to know the limitations of your class. If you are outdoors, a melee that gets jumped by a caster is at a disadvantage. Indoors, its vice versa.
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Old 08-10-2012, 05:45 PM
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I think this is the proper place to post this thread. OP just wants to give you guys an opportunity to try Red server, get a lot of levels with minimal time invested. You guys really wanna talk about red99 being fail? Take a look at your rnf as 40 year old adults piss and moan over FTE on a world dragon. LoL!
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Old 08-10-2012, 05:51 PM
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In wow any pvp under the max level gear doesn't matter much also. So yes anything BUT endgame pvp gear doesn't mean anything at all.
Huh?

I could give my pally heirloom set to a blind kid with no hands and he would kill most players in the lower brackets just by breathing on them. Or my hunter stuff. Or just the gun. Etc etc.
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Old 08-10-2012, 07:32 PM
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You guys really wanna talk about red99 being fail? Take a look at your rnf as 40 year old adults piss and moan over FTE on a world dragon. LoL!
I lol'd
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