Please do not release Kunark, Open Letter to Nilbog. - Page 4

Dullah · #31 08-03-2012, 10:34 AM

If a fraction of the population thats come through red, the 100s of players that lurk the forums, and those still active come together for kunark, it will easily be 150-200 players not including the new crowd it draws in.

Question is, how many of them are going to come back just to quit because its still classic EQ pvp, and not some other game they'd like to imagine it being.

Dullah · #32 08-03-2012, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Tycko [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I disagree with the OP in general.

There are people who play this server for many reasons and I want to identify them because it's important to understand the population consists of a variety of player types. Some players view PVE as the primary purpose of playing, with PVP as a bonus. Some players only care about PVP. It is important to recognize that both player types need to be considered.

Good post.

I posted something similar here and was just about to post it again on the red forums.

One persons view of EQ pvp may not be the same as anothers. There is no right way to play. People want to transform the game into something its not. Its not "a pvp game," its a pve game with pvp. Enjoy both, or don't. Play it how you want. But this fantasy that people who pve are "bad for the server" in EVERQUEST, is the epitome of idiocy.

Tr0llb0rn · #33 08-03-2012, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Zuranthium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Redesigning the skills and mechanics is the biggest thing. The resist system is terrible, spells take too long to cast after the lower levels and many of them should be drastically changed in general, melee combat is horribly uninteresting, items like Pumice Stone shouldn't exist, and of course class balance needs work. Most of these things are true for PvE Everquest as well, but it all needs to be calibrated differently for PvP.

Once you move past that, I think an Alignment-based system within PvP would add some depth. There should be some "structured" Guild vs Guild PvP as well, where teams prepare beforehand and then fight at a given location (with different obstacles in the way at some locations). There definitely needs to be leaderboards out there, a total of 4. One leaderboard for structured PvP measuring entire guilds, one leaderboard for structured PvP measuring individuals, one leaderboard for open-World PvP measuring entire guilds, and one leaderboard for open-World PvP measuring individuals.

Oh I see, I think I know what you are looking for, its called WoW on a pvp server. Try it out.

This is supposed to be classic legit red EQ, and its working as intended.

Tr0llb0rn · #34 08-03-2012, 10:45 AM

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I think the best way to do exp is to make it really fast between 1-40 then make it really slow (or normal p99 speed) between 41-60.

This is exactly what happened while you were gone. This is the system currently in place.

Nirgon · #35 08-03-2012, 11:49 AM

Get this Zuranthawhatever guy out of here.

Anyways, who is going to be hosting all these Seb groups and porting everyone from KC to EJ every time they need it?

You think solo'ing your melee to 40 is tough.... try 51+.

Massive Marc · #36 08-03-2012, 12:48 PM

If they can't see Kunark being the worst possible thing for this server right now, it's already doomed.

If they can't see one guild trolling them into releasing content just for them, it's already doomed.

If you can't see the amount of time and effort it will take to even FIND engaging PVP with Kunark, you're fucked.

Nilbog and team trolled soo hard.

Tr0llb0rn · #37 08-03-2012, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Massive Marc [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If they can't see Kunark being the worst possible thing for this server right now, it's already doomed.

If they can't see one guild trolling them into releasing content just for them, it's already doomed.

If you can't see the amount of time and effort it will take to even FIND engaging PVP with Kunark, you're fucked.

Nilbog and team trolled soo hard.

wow the rage of x-holobad is INTENSE up in here. Their worse nightmare is comming true, griefed off the last legit classic red EQ server this world will ever see, and said server continues to THRIVE while they are exiled to some lame shitbox in the desert.

So Classic.

heartbrand · #38 08-03-2012, 01:04 PM

Massive Marc is a holocaust member?

SamwiseBanned · #39 08-03-2012, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Get this Zuranthawhatever guy out of here.

Anyways, who is going to be hosting all these Seb groups and porting everyone from KC to EJ every time they need it?

You think solo'ing your melee to 40 is tough.... try 51+.

samwise will be porting all the pals around kunark.

SamwiseBanned · #40 08-03-2012, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Massive Marc [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If they can't see Kunark being the worst possible thing for this server right now, it's already doomed.

If they can't see one guild trolling them into releasing content just for them, it's already doomed.

If you can't see the amount of time and effort it will take to even FIND engaging PVP with Kunark, you're fucked.

Nilbog and team trolled soo hard.

oddly everyone (not just nilly) who actually plays the server wants kunark. the only people opposed to kunark are ones that dont play so why should they listen to you?