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Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's on foh forums. as far as everything dullah wrote above lol x 1000. This guys immersion level is off the charts. You and your butt pals are the only ones concerned about "winning." You weren't even in the guild when the majority of PVP happened here. Did I win this server because I was in nihilum? Did the other 100 people who have joined nihilum at some time but ultimately quit because this server blows such as nerfed / hughman / elpresidente / silver / billy / bruuce / murderface / applesauce / arbie / birne / hfran / oddjob / hijinx / rhotic / ecoli / madude, etc etc etc x 1000, did they win the server? Did they lose the server? Does winning mean simply having a nihilum tag? Do you lose the second you don't? Do you still get to win if you're retired?

cliffnote: nobody gives a fuck about "winning" they just want a fun, non-buggy emulated version of EQ that has PVP, minimal GM intervention, and doesn't involve sitting in a basement for 16 hours a day to accomplish anything. I want this server to be fun. I want it to have people on it. LoZ isn't for me for many, many, reasons, but it did have something that this server has been missing since January. The fear of PVP. Knowing that if I exp just a tad too deep in Karnor's I might get ganked at any moment. Knowing I can't just sit care free afk at the sebilis zone in. Knowing that since people can use /who to find you (something sorely needed on red99) I can't just sit afk and enjoy the scenery of Neriak without fear of someone getting me.

Ecoli here

I reluctantly joined Nihilum (since i dont like being on a team that has that much numbers over everybody else) because i wasnt digging some Founding Fathers racism and it meant that Holocaust was also not an option. So option 1 and 2 done with, why not try the only option left, 3 (Nihilum).

Im a pvper first and foremost, i got bored to tears seeing people raid in nihilum each night and watching them all log off after it and seeing the roster drop from 30 to 2. Nobody would fuck with Nihi pretty much while they were raiding and the odds were so reversed while they werent raiding that you had to hide under a rock or something.

Dead horse beaten to a pulp incoming: it was the xp loss in pvp that made the noobs quit after getting farmed by twinks, it was the xp loss that made Nihilum gain such an overwhelming advantage while they were farming and gave me such a handicap while i was itching to pvp with 2 guildies on.

All the knowledgeable people knew how to play EQ, so they level faster, know the spots for the gear, more likely to run around in large groups than casuals, and you penalize the noobs even more by making them lose xp in pvp on top of this.

This wasnt the best thought out game mechanic, to say the least, even though i know im not on the popular side with my views on this.

Basically, left the server cuz i wasnt having fun and that i foresaw all the casuals getting bled out of the server and pop dwindling because of the xp loss thing.

P.S. some Nihilum could probably not pvp their way out of a wet paperbag because i never actually saw them online ever outside of a raid. You can say whatever you want about FF and Holo, and i do not like them in general for the racist / cruel antics, but it is completely ridiculous and laughable to say they quit the server cuz they sucked at pvp and "lost the server", because in general, they didnt. LaMort did though [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Maybe i could go for "Nihilum won the zerging game" but i bet it was a variety of factors that led to players, like me, to move on to something else.

Clueless non-pvper as head GM while Rogean MIA didnt help me stick around either.