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Old 07-16-2012, 12:26 PM
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lol @ supreme the guy who was suspended for releasing someones real life information because he got enraged over a video game preaching to anyone on these forums. guy should be permabanned for his own health, it's nutjobs like him that might just snap and shoot up a post office.

Dude you're literally desperate for an avenue of attack agianst Supreme.

Your logic simply proves you're enraged over the situation you speak on.

I bet you're gonna bring up my forum thread next.

It's Simple

You got stomped in PVP, your guild(s) did not do well, whatsoever.

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Old 07-16-2012, 12:39 PM
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The difference is that there is one server where you have to actually compete within a defined rule set and another where you can box/MQ/Train and generally be a complete douche without repercussions.

The server population on Red99 is not a result of anything short of the dead and defeated QUITTING the server because they could not compete. It was more important to run around in 3-6 person gank squads griefing for the LULZ than it was to actually step up and organize into a strong force and compete for content.

Stop making excuses..man up and be a challenge.

Or STFU and move to LOZ and stop crapping up the Red99 forums with your pissing and moaning.
You live in your own world and have a hard time understanding what a server needs as a community. Also, you pretty much just said everything I said was the problem in my original message about being defensive and attacking people posting on here saying they are not hardcore enough. The problem it is that it isn't fun for most people.

I don't like how people can MQ and obviously no one likes the bugs on LoZ. That is why I said Red99 is a superior server when it comes to coding. That is the point, more people are willing to avoid Red99 because of the rule set. You can say whatever you want about dominating other guilds or what not. That doesn't make people quit.

A healthy population has at least 2-3 top guilds competing. It is also good if those 3 guilds are under 50% of the population, at least. It would be nice for those 3 guilds to be "elite" and only be about 20% of the population. 20-30 per guild on at a time with an overall population of 250+. The reason the first wave of people quit is because it is boring for them. Probably had to do with the exp being too low. Next people quit because others quit and their classes are group dependent. Next people quit because they look at what there is to look forward too, and it is nothing. Right now you either join your guild or you are stuck soloing crap. There isn't enough good PvP going on and the current rules make the PvP crap anyways.

I'm not a hardcore player and never will be. I was never in ff, holo or whatever. Maybe you don't care if people like me play or not, but that is because you don't understand what makes a server healthy and will remain in your own world as long as you play on this server with the current rules.
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Old 07-16-2012, 01:19 PM
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The server being unhealthy is obvious because of the hundreds of posts concerning it.


The constant attention and baby mama drama that it gets proves people still want to play on R99.

You guys are just shit slinging while we wait til something happens.

IMO it makes for a better pent up PVP war.

One thing I wouldn't oppose is Devnoob being a GM on R99.

The guy seems to know his stuff, I just don't want to see any cheating like LOZ has
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Old 07-16-2012, 01:33 PM
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A lot of us are vocal because it's a shame that a sever with such good coding has been botched so terribly. Ever watch the shark tank episode with the guy who invented the portable wine bottles? If you know what I'm talking about that is exactly how this server has been handled. We're disappointed like Kevin was because its such a waste of what coul be a tremendous product.
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Who is a worse owner? Rogean or James dolan?
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Old 07-16-2012, 02:28 PM
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The server being unhealthy is obvious because of the hundreds of posts concerning it.


The constant attention and baby mama drama that it gets proves people still want to play on R99.

You guys are just shit slinging while we wait til something happens.

IMO it makes for a better pent up PVP war.

One thing I wouldn't oppose is Devnoob being a GM on R99.

The guy seems to know his stuff, I just don't want to see any cheating like LOZ has
R99 has the best potential and the fixes are very easy to make this the best PvP server. It is why it is frustrating to those wanting it to be what it could be. Also this is the only emulator pvp forum for classic everquest around.

LoZ cons:

1) Hacking is possible - I don't know if this can be fixed with the current devs
2) Don't have the code skills to make the melee/resists what they should be
3) random bugs

All of these are limitations of the developers and time it takes to perfect.

R99 cons (for those who don't like the current rules at least:

1) exp rate
2) no global ooc
3) no hot zones to funnel pvp action
4) no 2 boxing allowed when population is low, this could easily be turned on and off, making it temporary when needed
5) no pvp recognition, yellow text, or pvp stats
6) I personally don't like the negative exp when dying from a death, some may actually like this. I think it scares too many off from pvp and actually reduces the amount of pvp too much. People just avoid everyone that much more. I like item loot of some sort over exp death.... just adding in a penalty with no reward for the winner just breeds hate and a bad community. It should either be win/neutral, win/lose or neutral/neutral in a pvp fight outcome. Right now on R99 it is neutral/lose. I killed way more then I got killed on this server, and I never had any real enemies, they were just strangers. I always felt like a dick for killing them and most of the time got hate messages for a while. It wasn't really that much fun after a while.


All the r99 cons, for me at least, would take a couple hours to implement.
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Old 07-16-2012, 02:57 PM
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R99 has the best potential and the fixes are very easy to make this the best PvP server. It is why it is frustrating to those wanting it to be what it could be. Also this is the only emulator pvp forum for classic everquest around.

LoZ cons:

1) Hacking is possible - I don't know if this can be fixed with the current devs
2) Don't have the code skills to make the melee/resists what they should be
3) random bugs

All of these are limitations of the developers and time it takes to perfect.

R99 cons (for those who don't like the current rules at least:

1) exp rate
2) no global ooc
3) no hot zones to funnel pvp action
4) no 2 boxing allowed when population is low, this could easily be turned on and off, making it temporary when needed
5) no pvp recognition, yellow text, or pvp stats
6) I personally don't like the negative exp when dying from a death, some may actually like this. I think it scares too many off from pvp and actually reduces the amount of pvp too much. People just avoid everyone that much more. I like item loot of some sort over exp death.... just adding in a penalty with no reward for the winner just breeds hate and a bad community. It should either be win/neutral, win/lose or neutral/neutral in a pvp fight outcome. Right now on R99 it is neutral/lose. I killed way more then I got killed on this server, and I never had any real enemies, they were just strangers. I always felt like a dick for killing them and most of the time got hate messages for a while. It wasn't really that much fun after a while.


All the r99 cons, for me at least, would take a couple hours to implement.
Perfectly said.

Except those r99 changes would take literally 20 minutes.
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Old 07-16-2012, 03:07 PM
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i feel ya hippo but some of the things on the list have been implimented.

1. xp has been increased a lot. you definately notice a big difference at lvls 1-35 which is the most important levels to help since after 35 you can group with any higher level.

2. global ooc is in

3. i like the idea of hotzones but then again a dont. people are going to level where they want regardless of where the xp is. I plan on leveling Unrest > MM > solb/lower guk even if the hot zones are najena>sola>splitpaw. its a good idea but i dont think itll funnel people in the right places if the hotzones are some wierd place noone wants to go.

4. boxing is lame. dont think it should ever be implimented. thats my opinion and im sticking to it!

5. i agree, yellow text would be fun. not sure on stats because people can just cheat the system with an alt.

6. maybe its because ive never been dumb enough to be bind camped but the xp loss is pretty minimal. unless you are suiciding yourself over and over i am not sure how this is a problem. if you felt like a dick for killing them you probably were being a dick lol. i dont pvp everyone i see just because i can thats just dumb.
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Old 07-16-2012, 03:15 PM
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i think increasing xp rates across the board will only widen the gap between solo classes and group dependent. increasing the xp 10 times will not help a lvl 30 warrior who cant even solo a light blue. if any kind of xp change is needed I would say lessen the harsh penalty on hybrids. would love to see more pallies make it out of the 30s [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] i dunno. i leveled a mage 1-40 in weeks (3 or 4 days played) grouping the entire time. if i can do that on blue, it can surely be done on red in quicker time. its not a matter of xp increase its a matter of finding groups here to xp. xp is there just gotta party up and get it.
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