Rules clarification

[Xanthias]

Originally Posted by Grahm [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Shud be a new rule.........who ever calls out a raid mob with the LEAST amount of players gets dibs, but HAS to kill the mob with that amount of players.

TMO calls trak with 15....BDA can call it with 14 players...tmo can then lower there number to 13...etc etc

Name that tune, raid mob style?

[Ravager]

This is kind of a fun idea. Maybe do the bidding like this but if guild 1 wipes, guild 2 has to attempt with their lowest bid.

[Ravager]

Probably not reasonable all the time, but might be a fun event.

[KentalCowtipper]

I agree this does sounds like it would actually be fun. Would only work if the lowest bidding #s guild wiped and the 2nd guild was forced to try with their lowest bid. If they wipe the 1st guild could try with +1 more than the last guild attempted with and so forth.

Although I don't see this happening as it most certainly favors TMO due to the overall gear discrepancy between our two guilds. I can see us downing Trak with 18 people of the right combination - 4 clerics, 2 tanks, 3 Bards, ranger to take trak touch first and 8 DPS - mbe 5 Melee dps and 3 nukers . I'd say its reasonable possible if there was a bard in every group we'd be able to resist 95% of the Aoes over time and down him with that many people.
(This is all me guessing.. the lowest I can remember doing him with is 25 or 26; I don't have the time to go through our attendance logs atm though).

Does anyone see BDA being able to down trak with 19?

Nonetheless it would be fun to try on a different mob other than the most contested mob in game (Trak). Maybe name that tune Tal or Sev style.

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by KentalCowtipper [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I agree this does sounds like it would actually be fun. Would only work if the lowest bidding #s guild wiped and the 2nd guild was forced to try with their lowest bid. If they wipe the 1st guild could try with +1 more than the last guild attempted with and so forth.

Although I don't see this happening as it most certainly favors TMO due to the overall gear discrepancy between our two guilds. I can see us downing Trak with 18 people of the right combination - 4 clerics, 2 tanks, 3 Bards, ranger to take trak touch first and 8 DPS - mbe 5 Melee dps and 3 nukers . I'd say its reasonable possible if there was a bard in every group we'd be able to resist 95% of the Aoes over time and down him with that many people.
(This is all me guessing.. the lowest I can remember doing him with is 25 or 26; I don't have the time to go through our attendance logs atm though).

Does anyone see BDA being able to down trak with 19?

Nonetheless it would be fun to try on a different mob other than the most contested mob in game (Trak). Maybe name that tune Tal or Sev style.

We did him with like 21 pre epics and VP we could very likely do it with 15 now. Would be fun for the 15 who got to play and lame for the other 20 who had to sit out

[Frieza_Prexus]

The trick would be that any buffs must come from within the 15 man crew.

[Silentone]

Originally Posted by Frieza_Prexus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The trick would be that any buffs must come from within the 15 man crew.

i like where this is going. would be worth messing with on any mob to be honest, seems fun.

[Verenity]

Originally Posted by KentalCowtipper [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I agree this does sounds like it would actually be fun. Would only work if the lowest bidding #s guild wiped and the 2nd guild was forced to try with their lowest bid. If they wipe the 1st guild could try with +1 more than the last guild attempted with and so forth.

Although I don't see this happening as it most certainly favors TMO due to the overall gear discrepancy between our two guilds. I can see us downing Trak with 18 people of the right combination - 4 clerics, 2 tanks, 3 Bards, ranger to take trak touch first and 8 DPS - mbe 5 Melee dps and 3 nukers . I'd say its reasonable possible if there was a bard in every group we'd be able to resist 95% of the Aoes over time and down him with that many people.
(This is all me guessing.. the lowest I can remember doing him with is 25 or 26; I don't have the time to go through our attendance logs atm though).

Does anyone see BDA being able to down trak with 19?

Nonetheless it would be fun to try on a different mob other than the most contested mob in game (Trak). Maybe name that tune Tal or Sev style.

I'd venture to say that our core of most active raiders is better geared than you might think. The trick would be what Xasten suggested and having only buffs from those participating I'd say we -might- be able to take him with 18 given a similar raid composition you suggested: 4 clerics, 2 warriors, 3 bards, necro instead of ranger to take the first aoe and shroom + to DMF, shaman, 7 DPS including a mage. It would be pretty awesome to try out for sure.

[Supaskillz]

I like the concept of making the content the challenge rather than poopsocking, batphoning, or rules manipulation however I think large chunks of the guilds involved would feel very left out as they were not allowed to participate in the raid b/c they are not one of the top 18 geared players in their guild.

I agree with ravager that it would be fun if a gm wanted to take a raid mob a week to do this as an event rather than the status quo. For that matter a gm doesn't actually have to be involved. Guild leaders could perhaps agree to try this once a week on a mob mutually agreed upon.

I personally would want to modify the rules so that if the lowest bid wipes the next guild can add +2(or maybe 3) players to attempt. This adds a slightly greater punishment for over estimating your delta squad.

One could imagine other such challenges guilds could create with one another depending on the target. Could bid time to clear to fear and engage CT for example (obviously more detailed rules would be required, perhaps just require that CT is only mob left when engage). This is really a 1 shot game so you would want to be really careful to not bid less than you can handle. Could do silly things like each guild tries to get the most spiroc lords in 15 minutes they can and winner gets dojo. Obviously none of these things could be the status quo, but if guild leaders wanted to arrange such events I think they would be a blast.

[Xanthias]

Originally Posted by Supaskillz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I agree with ravager that it would be fun if a gm wanted to take a raid mob a week to do this as an event rather than the status quo. For that matter a gm doesn't actually have to be involved.

Might be fun to just have a GM spawn the mob with NO LOOT, that way would be pure bragging rights.
Could possible ease the feelings of those not chosen.