If a new p99 server opened with forced raid target rotations would you switch?

[Atmas]

Originally Posted by Gwence [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I am 100% for having an enforced rotation on this server, mainly because it would make so many TMO people mad lol.

I volunteer to oversee it as well.

Here is a post to refernce the next time you claim that TMO kills mobs solely for antagonizing other players. Seems to be a bit of projectionism in there.

[Nietche]

Originally Posted by Cars [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think this server has a tendancy to take all of their problems, attach them to something they dont like, then say it's that things fault for everything that is wrong with the server. In this case it's TMO, before that it was IB and you would be stupid if you actually believed that.

The truth is that EQ is an older MMO designed in a way that was awesome, but short sighted. The only way for them to keep the masses at bay and not in a constant state of bitterly fighting over content was to just keep making content. Unfortunately P99 can't move that fast (again reasonable) and we get a massive bottleneck right at the end of an expansions timeline which causes all this hatred towards a system that shy of variance, would pretty much work for everyone.

Also, as someone already stated in this thread, if p99 was pushing out content at the same rate as Verant (and later Sony), no one on this server would know who TMO was as they would already be half an expansion ahead of everyone else.

[Gwence]

you guys have the memory span of like 5 minutes

if this server opened it's content at a normal pace, ib would've been done with velious before TMO had even killed trakanon lol

[Gwence]

tmo being the "top guild" on this server right now is the same as being a self-proclaimed leader of some 3rd world country in africa that no one has heard of.

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Gwence [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you guys have the memory span of like 5 minutes

if this server opened it's content at a normal pace, ib would've been done with velious before TMO had even killed trakanon lol

So you are reinforcing the fact that you could be number one if TMO wasnt here. Thanks

[Flunklesnarkin]

Originally Posted by Nietche [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No.

1. Minimum guild size: Any main can make a billion alts. See number 3.

2. Skill requirements: any top end guild with the bare minimum in numbers can beat a dragon. Without having to race, even fewer people are needed.

3. IP account check: Fine. Is there a maximum number of accounts a single person can have?

Forced rotations is asking for an instanced World of Warcraft scenario except far worse and far more boring as any one guild will be waiting forever to kill a dragon in 30 seconds only to wait a few weeks to kill another dragon in 30 seconds.

Carebears may think they want this kind of server, but they don't. Carebears want the same thing as hardcores. They just want it handed to them on a silver platter, and at relatively the same rate as hardcores.

What carebears also need to consider is that carebear, casual guilds do not operate well without the hard core Raid Leaders (RL) in evidence. I was in BDA before TMO, and I must say that without Chest on raids as RL, BDA was not so shiny in execution, meaning that if carebears truly want a server devoted to only carebears, your progression to top end guild status may never happen. Be careful what you wish for.

combine your points 1 and 3 and you will see what I mean (it won't matter if you have a billion alts if they are all in one guild)


but the point here isn't that I have all the answers or that the server would fail if it was made.


the point here is this is something most carebears want.. and the hardcore raiders don't want.


thats why you make one server with no gm enforcement at all ( a dream come true for hardcore raiders yes?)


and one server for casuals/carebears with a community decided set of rules.. community monitored.. then if issues arise they are reported and dealt with by staff. (almost like a democracy with a parliament of guilds?)


I don't see much of an increase in workload for gm's either as they wouldn't have to get involved in the competitive server except for stopping hacking or creating a guild.

I bet you that IB and VD would even comeback to a no gm involvement server to compete against TMO.. wouldn't you guys love the thrill of actual competition again?

I'm sure there are tons of casuals from divinity,bda,acyrid, whatever guild who would be willing to assist in any capacity as guide or gm.


many others have stated it in the thread though.. casuals want to be able to experience content.. not have to deal with guilds whose entire game plan is to prevent others from experiencing content to maintain their ego and "status".

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by Gwence [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you guys have the memory span of like 5 minutes

if this server opened it's content at a normal pace, ib would've been done with velious before TMO had even killed trakanon lol

TMO did in 5 months what IB could never do. If content came out at a normal pace, IB would have been run off all the same.

Face it, your guild was destined to lose to TMO.

[BigSlip]

worst thread ever?

[Gwence]

what ib could never do?? we did everything you did, and did it first and better haha

how can you be this dense?

and how am I re-inforcing your ignorant belief, vp wasn't open on time or we would've been done with it by the time you all were ready to go in, likewise if velious was opened 1yr after kunark (normal timeline) we would've been 75% done before u attempt your first lodizal lol

your delusions that you are the better guild because we chose to go progress somewhere else continues to be laughable. And it's blatantly obvious you're just mad you didn't think of it first. EQ has always been a game of PVE progression and which guilds are strong enough to set themselves apart on that front. Never has it been a game of which guild can poopsock with the largest socks and which can grief others the best. IB has always had the upper hand, just read the server first thread

"but wahhawahhawhh we weren't raiding till just recently, once you guys had already killed everything 50+ times"... it's a fucking lame excuse cry more - once it was known vp wasnt opening on time (which would've been expansion launch) ib had half it's motivation and still owned TMO in every way possible. And now we're owning velious while you all are raid suspended lol.

there is not a single person on this server with a shred of intelligence that would put tmo in the same league as ib lol, it's like comparing a lion to a fucking cockroach.

only thing tmo stands out in is how stupid all there forum warriors make them look on a daily basis.

[BigSlip]

Originally Posted by Gwence [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

what ib could never do?? we did everything you did, and did it first and better haha

how can you be this dense?

and how am I re-inforcing your ignorant belief, vp wasn't open on time or we would've been done with it by the time you all were ready to go in, likewise if velious was opened 1yr after kunark (normal timeline) we would've been 75% done before u attempt your first lodizal lol

your delusions that you are the better guild because we chose to go progress somewhere else continues to be laughable. And it's blatantly obvious you're just mad you didn't think of it first. EQ has always been a game of PVE progression and which guilds are strong enough to set themselves apart on that front. Never has it been a game of which guild can poopsock with the largest socks and which can grief others the best. IB has always had the upper hand, just read the server first thread

"but wahhawahhawhh we weren't raiding till just recently, once you guys had already killed everything 50+ times"... it's a fucking lame excuse cry more - once it was known vp wasnt opening on time (which would've been expansion launch) ib had half it's motivation and still owned TMO in every way possible. And now we're owning velious while you all are raid suspended lol.

there is not a single person on this server with a shred of intelligence that would put tmo in the same league as ib lol, it's like comparing a lion to a fucking cockroach.

only thing tmo stands out in is how stupid all there forum warriors make them look on a daily basis.

Fucking immersed.


hows eq mac pal?

thats rite eq mac


sounds lovely.