Staff - Players - TMO, a Treatise on the Future of the Server

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Susanbanthony [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The BDA/IB/Divinity/Black Hand/Whoever can come PUG VP raids have been the most classic raiding experience I've had since I've joined P99 (though old school fear/hate clears come close). And, oddly enough, the most fun. Believe it or not, it's been fun without another group of players in VP "competing" with us. Know why? We're competing against the dragons. We sometimes fail, we sometimes succeed, but we are always learning. That is what Everquest is about. Not the bullshit this server was turned into long ago with poopsocking, FTE, rules lawyering, etc (and that TMO continues to perpetuate).

Competition can exist between players and is healthy, but why can't the "competition" stop at "Shit, they've beaten us to the zone with a capable raid force and are clearly moving toward the target. I hope they wipe, so we can have a shot. If not, cong them." Stop being assholes.

That seems a bit bent on opinion...who is to say what is a capable raid force, and TMO would always show up with a more capable raid force.

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by radditsu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I guess the minimal raid force with minimal amount of key classes that is essentially a glorified pickup raid who have not raided together before killing raid mobs in a zone that no longer gives the ability to hide from significant area of effect damage is "screw it , here's your loot".

I guess we have to be trained by another guild for it to count as a challenge. In that case TMO has not had a challenge in months. Why don't you go up to vp after the ban and have you guys train each other all day.

It's Everquest, everything hands you loot.

If you're getting trained by another guild on purpose and then kill it. I'd be impressed. Other than that, might as well be killing orc 1.

[karsten]

to be fair, i think we've all died more at orc1 than in VP in our lives

[apio]

everytime i read a comment from active TMO people in this thread, it reminds me of how frustrating and stupid it was to be on top of the server. Cockblocking people to feel better about yourself. I did it all a year ago, and now that I have some distance to it all I can see what a sad thing it truely is.

What you (and by "you" i mean the people on this server that are not in TMO) need to realize is the mentality of these people. They feel they "deserve" every dragon and raid mob in the game, because they PUT IN THE TIME AND EFFORT. Therefore, if you can not compete with 24 hour per day tracking, and being able to mobilize 40 people within 15 minutes, YOU CAN GO F*** urself. You dont deserve ANYTHING. If it was up to them, they would still be cockblocking every single raid mob in the game because they CAN.

You dont deserve it. Thats the bottom line.

Now I moved to AK. I didnt rejoin TR because tbh I didnt like my time there very much. It didnt remind me at all of how classic everquest used to be. There was always competition, but it was NEVER like it is here. On P99 theres a unique metagame, that is only reinforced by the horribly retarded forum community. Thank god some people started cleaning up a bit. I hope it is not too late.

The earliest I saw people starting to cockblock to slow down others progression was after PoP launch, because you NEEDED to keep the other guilds out of the EPs so you could progress on to the Plane of Time, through flagging - It was a flagging bottleneck so you needed to slow the progression of other guilds or they would catch up

. Anhow, TR fits in perfectly in the new server, they get along with everyone - Despite some TMO forum trolls going on a riot on the AK forums to try and get IB/TR kicked from the server, they raid there, silently, without any drama, sharing the content with numerous other guilds. Even Lron has given them a break.

Back to topic: IMO just dont compete with TMO. By the time you beat them you will hate yourself for what you have become, it is simply not worth it. Let them have their little E-Win, they all sacrifice so much for it. And most of all don´t let them troll you by believing that you dont deserve "their targets". I am sure theres plenty of old school TMO around that would agree that what they used to be was way more important and fun than what they are now.

If youre casual and want to see some content, get a mac mini and join us here on Al Kabor. It is truly a classic Everquest Community with awesome content and 2 guilds that are dedicated to do real progression. TR and vintage are both still progression locked at velious, AND theres also Luclin and PoP for all those who didnt actually hate it. Both of the expansions had a lot to offer, and you will be able to play the game you like without classic nazis telling you how you should and shouldnt play this game [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

See you there,
Iance

[radditsu]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's Everquest, everything hands you loot.

If you're getting trained by another guild on purpose and then kill it. I'd be impressed. Other than that, might as well be killing orc 1.

Nope, I'll just frap's it and you guys can enjoy another 2 weeks exping on alts. I follow proper codes of conduct and respect my fellow players (even you!). I, however, will not tolerate my day being ruined due to the effects of others. Racing and competition is fine as long as you do not otherwise destroy the experience of other players.

If it continues I wonder how long a "raiding guild" can go without "raiding" due to the effects of a few guys who do not understand that.

[Versus]

Originally Posted by Susanbanthony [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The BDA/IB/Divinity/Black Hand/Whoever can come PUG VP raids have been the most classic raiding experience I've had since I've joined P99 (though old school fear/hate clears come close). And, oddly enough, the most fun. Believe it or not, it's been fun without another group of players in VP "competing" with us. Know why? We're competing against the dragons. We sometimes fail, we sometimes succeed, but we are always learning. That is what Everquest is about. Not the bullshit this server was turned into long ago with poopsocking, FTE, rules lawyering, etc (and that TMO continues to perpetuate).

Good on you guys. I'm glad you had fun. Problem is, in two days, the amount of VP keyed people able to raid in VP is going to more than double. Once that happens, there's no room for PUG /randoming. There will be too many mouths to feed and not enough dragons, whereas now, there's a nice utopian amount of people able to raid there.

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by apio [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

YOU CAN GO F*** urself. You dont deserve ANYTHING.

You dont deserve it. Thats the bottom line.

IMO just dont compete with TMO it is simply not worth it. And most of all let them troll you. I am sure theres plenty of old school TMO around that agree.

If youre casual join us here on Al Kabor. It is a Everquest Community with content and 2 guilds that do progression. TR and vintage are both still progression locked at Luclin and hate it. classic nazis shouldnt play this game [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

See you there,
Iance

[LizardNecro]

Originally Posted by apio [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

everytime i read a comment from active TMO people in this thread, it reminds me of how frustrating and stupid it was to be on top of the server. Cockblocking people to feel better about yourself. I did it all a year ago, and now that I have some distance to it all I can see what a sad thing it truely is.

What you (and by "you" i mean the people on this server that are not in TMO) need to realize is the mentality of these people. They feel they "deserve" every dragon and raid mob in the game, because they PUT IN THE TIME AND EFFORT. Therefore, if you can not compete with 24 hour per day tracking, and being able to mobilize 40 people within 15 minutes, YOU CAN GO F*** urself. You dont deserve ANYTHING. If it was up to them, they would still be cockblocking every single raid mob in the game because they CAN.

You dont deserve it. Thats the bottom line.

Now I moved to AK. I didnt rejoin TR because tbh I didnt like my time there very much. It didnt remind me at all of how classic everquest used to be. There was always competition, but it was NEVER like it is here. On P99 theres a unique metagame, that is only reinforced by the horribly retarded forum community. Thank god some people started cleaning up a bit. I hope it is not too late.

The earliest I saw people starting to cockblock to slow down others progression was after PoP launch, because you NEEDED to keep the other guilds out of the EPs so you could progress on to the Plane of Time, through flagging - It was a flagging bottleneck so you needed to slow the progression of other guilds or they would catch up

. Anhow, TR fits in perfectly in the new server, they get along with everyone - Despite some TMO forum trolls going on a riot on the AK forums to try and get IB/TR kicked from the server, they raid there, silently, without any drama, sharing the content with numerous other guilds. Even Lron has given them a break.

Back to topic: IMO just dont compete with TMO. By the time you beat them you will hate yourself for what you have become, it is simply not worth it. Let them have their little E-Win, they all sacrifice so much for it. And most of all don´t let them troll you by believing that you dont deserve "their targets". I am sure theres plenty of old school TMO around that would agree that what they used to be was way more important and fun than what they are now.

If youre casual and want to see some content, get a mac mini and join us here on Al Kabor. It is truly a classic Everquest Community with awesome content and 2 guilds that are dedicated to do real progression. TR and vintage are both still progression locked at velious, AND theres also Luclin and PoP for all those who didnt actually hate it. Both of the expansions had a lot to offer, and you will be able to play the game you like without classic nazis telling you how you should and shouldnt play this game [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

See you there,
Iance

That was a very well written post Iance.

[apio]

damn, i couldve saved some serious time [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] thanks for the TL DR

[radditsu]

Originally Posted by apio [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

everytime i read a comment from active TMO people in this thread, it reminds me of how frustrating and stupid it was to be on top of the server. Cockblocking people to feel better about yourself. I did it all a year ago, and now that I have some distance to it all I can see what a sad thing it truely is.

What you (and by "you" i mean the people on this server that are not in TMO) need to realize is the mentality of these people. They feel they "deserve" every dragon and raid mob in the game, because they PUT IN THE TIME AND EFFORT. Therefore, if you can not compete with 24 hour per day tracking, and being able to mobilize 40 people within 15 minutes, YOU CAN GO F*** urself. You dont deserve ANYTHING. If it was up to them, they would still be cockblocking every single raid mob in the game because they CAN.

You dont deserve it. Thats the bottom line.

Now I moved to AK. I didnt rejoin TR because tbh I didnt like my time there very much. It didnt remind me at all of how classic everquest used to be. There was always competition, but it was NEVER like it is here. On P99 theres a unique metagame, that is only reinforced by the horribly retarded forum community. Thank god some people started cleaning up a bit. I hope it is not too late.

The earliest I saw people starting to cockblock to slow down others progression was after PoP launch, because you NEEDED to keep the other guilds out of the EPs so you could progress on to the Plane of Time, through flagging - It was a flagging bottleneck so you needed to slow the progression of other guilds or they would catch up

. Anhow, TR fits in perfectly in the new server, they get along with everyone - Despite some TMO forum trolls going on a riot on the AK forums to try and get IB/TR kicked from the server, they raid there, silently, without any drama, sharing the content with numerous other guilds. Even Lron has given them a break.

Back to topic: IMO just dont compete with TMO. By the time you beat them you will hate yourself for what you have become, it is simply not worth it. Let them have their little E-Win, they all sacrifice so much for it. And most of all don´t let them troll you by believing that you dont deserve "their targets". I am sure theres plenty of old school TMO around that would agree that what they used to be was way more important and fun than what they are now.

If youre casual and want to see some content, get a mac mini and join us here on Al Kabor. It is truly a classic Everquest Community with awesome content and 2 guilds that are dedicated to do real progression. TR and vintage are both still progression locked at velious, AND theres also Luclin and PoP for all those who didnt actually hate it. Both of the expansions had a lot to offer, and you will be able to play the game you like without classic nazis telling you how you should and shouldnt play this game [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

See you there,
Iance

TR/Vintage have room for a level 2 shaman? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]