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Old 05-04-2012, 05:32 PM
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The amount of damage your DoTs do will increase by level but for clarity let's consider a simple hypothetical situation:

Denon's Disruptive Discord
No Instrument: 14hp/tick or 42hp/application
Regular Horn: 28hp/tick (20 Modifier = No Instrument x 2) or 84hp/application and 100% increase from no instrument
Horn of War: 32hp/tick (23 Modifier = No Instrument x 2.3) or 96hp/application and 14.3% increase from regular horn

If a mob has 1500hp:
No Instrument: min 36 applications = 10.8 minutes to kill
Regular Horn: min 18 applications = 5.4 minutes to kill = 100% increase in speed over No Instrument
Horn of War: min 16 applications = 4.8 minutes to kill = 12.5% increase in speed over Regular Horn

In other words, you'll save on average 36 seconds per kite in an ideal world where every mob you're killing has 1500hp and doesn't resist.

Depending on how many mobs you kite at once, you're looking at like 3-5 (4 avg) kites per level starting at level 18. So 32 levels to 50.

Time Spent 18-50
No Instrument 18-50: (4 kites/level) * (32 levels) * (10.8 minutes/kite) = 1382.4 minutes ~= 23 hours
Regular Horn 18-50: (4 kites/level) * (32 levels) * (5.4 minutes/kite) = 691.2 minutes ~= 11.5 hours
Horn of War 18-50: (4 kites/level) * (32 levels) * (4.8 minutes/kite) = 614.4 minutes ~= 10.25 hours

There are obviously fixed costs such as the time it takes you to gather mobs, risk of dying each application, and so forth, but this should give an idealized idea of the benefit of the horn. In this example, you'll save about 1 hour and 15 minutes off your total /played by having a Horn of War.

How much is an hour of your time worth to you?

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Old 05-05-2012, 03:25 PM
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You are going to need to make rational sense in at least one of your posts or everyone will get bored of you somnia, and that point is rapidly approaching
Keep up the posts, even if they don't make rational sense for everyone. Very informative and positive contribution to this thread (horn/no horn/uber horn not discussed previously).

So thanks for the breakdown!
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Old 05-06-2012, 04:42 AM
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Imo it isn't worth it to buy a mcvaxius horn unless you've got absolutely nothing else to do with the money.

Stuff up through OT doesn't have enough HP that killing takes all that long even if you're using a vendor horn and only one AE. It's more important, imo, to be faster during the pull by spending cash on better drums... plus the drums will serve you better in the long run since they stay super useful (speed, resists, etc) while the horn has pretty limited use outside of AE leveling.
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Old 05-06-2012, 06:53 PM
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Well it is probably outside of my price range anyway, plus I do not know how good I will be at bard kiting will have to give it a go next week when im less busy.

Thanks for the comments about the horn's though, much to consider!
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Old 05-15-2012, 02:02 PM
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Just want to say I am a level 8 Bard and I did a little of this in Gfay today. It worked pretty nicely, especially when you got a nice circle of corpses to be your guide. However, I wasn't ready for the massive amount of mobs you guys do. I can see how this will lead to some very nice xp.

Nice tips!
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Old 06-21-2012, 12:29 PM
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so should i swap instrustments for each dot song or just use 1 horn or lute?
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Old 06-21-2012, 11:02 PM
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so should i swap instrustments for each dot song or just use 1 horn or lute?
Whichever you like doing. You kill a bit quicker with swapping lute and horn both in, but it isn't a big difference really so if the swapping annoys you or gets you killed sometimes, then don't bother with it.

I never used anything except the 18 dot on my bard until I was done in OT at 46 anyways. Made killing a bit less stressful when you only have to worry about landing 1 dot every 10-15 seconds instead of trying to keep both of them up nonstop.
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Old 07-08-2012, 08:18 PM
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I just wanna dedicate my first successful big kite (entire unrest yard) TO my big brother Wolfram. I should have taken pic before corpses started rotting [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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Old 07-09-2012, 12:37 AM
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Old 07-24-2012, 11:07 PM
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My bards in his mid 40's now and I'm starting to consider places outside OT for drawing circles with my bard. After about an hour of scanning this thread I have come up with a few options..

Dreadlands, CoM, Spirocs.

Dreadlands seems doable, but will have to be careful with mob selection. I'm assuming chickens and dogs are the main diet here.

CoM doesn't sound fun at all. Not really going to even try this.

Spirocs might be okay, assuming you'll twist levi+selo+chant for pulls in tree house. Although I have an inkling that my bard will end up face first in a tree and dead before my twitch reaction to rectify it.

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