To all the doomsayers:

[Tr0llb0rn]

Originally Posted by Mornin3.0 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you hide behind a fake forum account... you have obviously been butt hurt in game too many times... and i have been 5 guilds... all served their purpose very well..

yes, together combined they got you to now rage quit w/ zero raid target loots.


/clap

you iz THIRSTY

[hagard]

Originally Posted by nabsev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Guys we need to more content to spread out the already abysmal population even further. Fuck the server health I want dem kunark pixels

$$

[Seaweedpimp]

Originally Posted by Tr0llb0rn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You made 3 videos and a long thread about "the best pvp in the boxes history" last week, and this week after loseing on the 4th day and loseing the dragon spawn..... /who all founding fathers zero??


Four days of "the best pvp in the boxes history" and then a mass quit after Heartbrand wipes your raid on Naggy w/ 20 invanders hoops and FGs??

The pvp is still around, you just have to be like Nihilum and pick yourselves back up after a loss and get back in the ring bro.

Its the classic red EQ way.

Can you re write that please?


In other notes, I guarentee you the reason i dont log in daily anymore has nothing to do with dragons, you might be able to pull that cord on anyone else, but ive killed too many fucking dragons and i could care less about them.

If i wanted to get pixels i would jump on blue where my blue guild monoplizes dragons so hard, that it would take months to even steal one thing from us, that we wanted.



Those videos, were the average pvp i saw every night.

I cant believe you take my videos, of ff stomping that ass, and promote it. Thanks!

[Mornin3.0]

Originally Posted by hijinks [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not to single you out or anything, you're probably one of the quieter ones since you joined the fray later on, but the hate that stews inside some of the players that called this server a home for awhile was borderline ridiculous, the RL attacks like above is a turn off to the casual player. Really, bottom line is some people here can't draw the line between winning/losing in a game, and respecting the player on the other side.

Like it or not at least at some point we were all together in this and really the community itself along with the neglect from the admins brought this server down. I have gamed for 15+ years online and have never seen a larger group of anti-social hate spewing derelicts as I have on this box. I expect more of the same in response to this post, but really there were players on here that wanted nothing else than to drive people away from the game, throw that on top of the admin neglect and you wont get much resistance, especially with the onslaught of new games that were released this year and are going to be released (SWTOR, D3, GW2, Tera, etc)

It's just a game people, there was so little at stake here on this box to begin with .. claiming or actually 'winning' the box has about as much value as a toy in a happy meal. It exists in such a small vacuum of the internet, that we all could have done a little extra to make it more fun.

Well said.. I actually do agree but also understand that Everquest PvP brings together some of the worst people on the internet. The shit talking that comes with the game really has no morals and is something many from blue were not ready for when they came here. I have no problem with you calling me out because I will be first to admit that on the forums and in Global OOC I am an asshole, spew bullshit lies, and have no respect for others(which is much different than the way I am with guildies or talking in tells). This behavior probably has turned off many people from the server but lets be honest, if they couldn't handle that type of bullshit, they couldn't handle an Everquest PvP server where a large part of the communities goal is only to grief others(something that I also have fun doing and expect others to grief me back).


Pro tip: Do not let anyone on internet know anything about you irl.... Expecially on a EQ PvP server/forums.

[Mornin3.0]

Originally Posted by Tr0llb0rn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

yes, together combined they got you to now rage quit w/ zero raid target loots.


/clap

you iz THIRSTY

lol that you think I rage


or that I quit...

do your homework before you try to troll me..

[nilbog]

Originally Posted by Tr0llb0rn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

To Nilbog: in classic red everquest, the best pvp has always been over contested content. The problem right now is a lack of content for MANY former players. They have full fear gear, they have full hate gear, they have farmed every valuable item from lower guk and solB 10 times over. They have leveled their main to max level, they have leveld alts to max level.

Realistically, my contribution in regards to content is complete. The content exists, and works well. When the upcoming content is released, you will enjoy a more complete implementation from being thoroughly tested on the pve server.

For the people claiming that I don't do anything: The pvp server is Rogean's. The pve server is mine. We share several responsibilities for them, but when it comes to rule changes or release dates for the pvp server, Rogean is who you need to address. My vote regarding pvp does matter, I hope, but ultimately I do not make the final call for pvp changes involving releases or rules. For example, I liked item loot and thought teams would be cool to try out. In the end, it was a discussion between Rogean, Null, and myself.

I have tried, several times, to gauge interest in what needs changing. I have voiced my opinion and did the related work as I could. Things like guard assist, certain items not dropping that should, manastone working in the planes, etc. This is additional work on top of what I already do for the pve server. Regardless of what I did, I received more negative feedback than positive: Wasn't enough, wasn't fast enough, or whatever sounds the worst.

IMO what needs to happen for pvp changes: Untrolled discussion. Cohesion of realistic ideas. If I were to guess, Rogean doesn't respond to most of these threads because of how the topics are addressed and what people say about him.

[hijinks]

Originally Posted by nilbog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Realistically, my contribution in regards to content is complete. The content exists, and works well. When the upcoming content is released, you will enjoy a more complete implementation from being thoroughly tested on the pve server.

For the people claiming that I don't do anything: The pvp server is Rogean's. The pve server is mine. We share several responsibilities for them, but when it comes to rule changes or release dates for the pvp server, Rogean is who you need to address. My vote regarding pvp does matter, I hope, but ultimately I do not make the final call for pvp changes involving releases or rules. For example, I liked item loot and thought teams would be cool to try out. In the end, it was a discussion between Rogean, Null, and myself.

I have tried, several times, to gauge interest in what needs changing. I have voiced my opinion and did the related work as I could. Things like guard assist, certain items not dropping that should, manastone working in the planes, etc. This is additional work on top of what I already do for the pve server. Regardless of what I did, I received more negative feedback than positive: Wasn't enough, wasn't fast enough, or whatever sounds the worst.

IMO what needs to happen for pvp changes: Untrolled discussion. Cohesion of realistic ideas. If I were to guess, Rogean doesn't respond to most of these threads because of how the topics are addressed and what people say about him.

Always nice to see a response from some1 on the team-- thanks.

I think the community has tried several different forms of getting our message across. Really, I think most of the community feels that he probably doesn't even see our message. Rogean made a post about the server a few months ago, and I didn't see anything but global OOC get implemented, and it helped for awhile.. but had it been in since the get-go I think the server would have been more successful.

Look, we all know this isn't your job and that you don't get paid to do it-- we can all appreciate that but the community as a whole has come to grips with the fact that the server will not succeed with the attention it has seen thus far, the proof is in the population. Simple research of your Red99 database will clearly show the slow drop in population in correlation to the requests on the forum, it's not rocket science.

I guess the benefit is that Red won't be wiped and if Rogean ever does decide to be more active in the community and instill confidence back in its inhabitants that we'll have characters to come back to.. till then.. it is what it is I guess.

[Lazortag]

Originally Posted by hijinks [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think the community has tried several different forms of getting our message across. ...

I think the problem is that the community hasn't tried being polite as a form of getting its message across. If you can link me one discussion on this forum where the participants are even remotely civil to each other and to the staff, I'll be surprised.

[hijinks]

Originally Posted by Lazortag [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think the problem is that the community hasn't tried being polite as a form of getting its message across. If you can link me one discussion on this forum where the participants are even remotely civil to each other and to the staff, I'll be surprised.

I'd check the forum posts of late November, early December.. for sure.

I get it tho, sometimes you gotta walk a day in their shoes to feel what they're feeling.. People forget this is a hobby for them, I'd be upset also if I came home from an 8 hr shift, or a 45 hr work week and worked any hours I could into this project only to see posts of "burn it down" "not fast enough, not good enough" -- I get it, but somehow they have to filter that shit out and continue to do what they can..

I think the BIGGEST culprit here which is very fixable is:

Communication. Communication goes a long way, and there has been very little of it here other than Amelinda on an island by herself-- anybody else notice shes been MIA? I wonder why, probably got tired of deferring and eating all the negativity

[Mornin3.0]

Originally Posted by nilbog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Realistically, my contribution in regards to content is complete. The content exists, and works well. When the upcoming content is released, you will enjoy a more complete implementation from being thoroughly tested on the pve server.

For the people claiming that I don't do anything: The pvp server is Rogean's. The pve server is mine. We share several responsibilities for them, but when it comes to rule changes or release dates for the pvp server, Rogean is who you need to address. My vote regarding pvp does matter, I hope, but ultimately I do not make the final call for pvp changes involving releases or rules. For example, I liked item loot and thought teams would be cool to try out. In the end, it was a discussion between Rogean, Null, and myself.

I have tried, several times, to gauge interest in what needs changing. I have voiced my opinion and did the related work as I could. Things like guard assist, certain items not dropping that should, manastone working in the planes, etc. This is additional work on top of what I already do for the pve server. Regardless of what I did, I received more negative feedback than positive: Wasn't enough, wasn't fast enough, or whatever sounds the worst.

IMO what needs to happen for pvp changes: Untrolled discussion. Cohesion of realistic ideas. If I were to guess, Rogean doesn't respond to most of these threads because of how the topics are addressed and what people say about him.

People may have trolled and said not nice things about a staff that dedicates their free time but.... the truth remains that the communication between the staff and the community has lacked and invited such trolls. If the staff was more open with their communication and involved with the community then I assure you the trolls would have nothing to troll about. The successes and failures of this box remain ABSOLUTELY on the shoulders of the staff and if I was staff I would take responsibility for those successes/failures.. not blame an internet community. I do sympathize with staff whos names are not Rogean though.. It appears after launch he decided to be busy with something else and put it on other peoples shoulder without giving them any actual final say.