Some Kael questions

[nilbog]

Originally Posted by Frieza_Prexus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

AoW definately did not reset his depop timer on aggro. My guild was infamous for failing AoW and we did it for like 6-7 weeks straight. Every time was a massive rush to recover from wipes since he depoped within the hour (or around there). While aggroed, he would not depop, but if the timer ran and we wiped, that was it.

If this is the case, it can be set up to depop as soon as disengaged and timer has expired. AoW knows griefing!

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you need any EverQuestions answered, you just ask Old Man Nirgon.

What you do with my answers is up to you.

Old man Nirgon, questions 5 and 6 from the OP are unanswered.

[Frieza_Prexus]

I'll see if we can find any old Prexus material regarding this. I THINK he may have pathed back before depopping, but it might have been instant on aggro drop. Elethia research king might be able to shed light.

[Qian]

5. Shard of Hsagra's Talisman for the Sleeper's Tomb key. This was not in with the launch of Velious iirc. Certain giant raid targets (tormax, derakor, statue, velketor) began dropping this piece at some point. When was it?

I found a few things.

Magelo shows it as first entered on 7/28/02
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I also looked back on the archived quest for the ST key on Alla. The archive for 7/12/02 showed only the dragon loot.
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The Tailsman was not added to Alla until Oct 2002

The first comment on this post about getting the drop from the statue seems to jive with that time frame.
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TL/DR: No Tailsmans until Luclin era.

[Ele]

Originally Posted by nilbog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

5. Shard of Hsagra's Talisman for the Sleeper's Tomb key. This was not in with the launch of Velious iirc. Certain giant raid targets (tormax, derakor, statue, velketor) began dropping this piece at some point. When was it?

To add to the post above.

This is circumstantial, but Legacy of Steel was one of the big Dragon Faction guilds at Velious release and they lamented in their posts that being Dragon Faction basically screwed you on Sleeper's Tomb.

http://www.legacyofsteel.net/Archives/Post/2001-05-11

All I can say is that I am SO bummed that my guild cannot hunt hunt in Western Wastes due to faction concerns. Being Dragon-Allies really sucks -- our twinks have no Western Wastes armor. Oh wait, we killed Klandicar tonight. Good ol' Kland, who is my ally. Well, we needed a Sleepers Key. He had to die. Right about now we're not feeling all that stupid for our faction choice. We can deal with being friends of the dragons if they keep pimping our clerics with White Dragon Idols.

Other quick note regarding Sleeper's Tomb:

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March 19, 2002
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- Sleeper's Tomb Key is now Soulbound

[h0tr0d (shaere)]

cook it, add salt, best way for kale [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[William_Munny15]

Shaere!

[nilbog]

-Removed idol from the spawn chain. Killing Statue will spawn AOW. If this is found to be incorrect, it will be changed back.

-Nothing will drop Shard of Hsagra's Talisman, unless evidence is produced it existed prior to Luclin.

Originally Posted by Frieza_Prexus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

While aggroed, he would not depop, but if the timer ran and we wiped, that was it.

Modified to work like this.

[Gwence]

Originally Posted by nilbog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

7. After the Statue of Rallos Zek is dead, how long should the Idol stay spawned? How long should the AOW stay spawned? What I'm asking is.. is it possible to kill Statue, then 5 days later have a Statue respawn up at the same time as an unkilled Idol/AoW.

There's no idol on velious release, but it's a pretty strong possibility it did get added in before Luclin release.

In that case, idol does not despawn ever. There was 2 idols up on alkabor few weeks ago after we killed statues. And yea, gonna assume that to mean you could get back to back aow's if you were so inclined.

Makes sense really, it never occurred on live in my experience becasue the guild that killed statue was probably there for AoW, if not, there was another guild waiting for it, so that scenario never came about.

[ElanoraBryght]

From "Mobs Form a Union, Demand Better Working Conditions"
by Moorgard on 2002-02-14
http://www.mobhunter.com/mobhunter_a...563729945.html

The Giants Will Not Be Outdone

Are the followers of Rallos Zek going to let some scaly worshippers of Veeshan have all the fun? No way! Changes have turned up in Kael, too.

Previously, when the Statue of Rallos Zek was killed, the Avatar of War would spawn for around 45-60 minutes. If no one defeated him during that time, the AoW would despawn.

This wasn't much of an issue until a few months ago when guilds actually became capable of killing this big baddie. Then the problem arose that one guild would kill the Statue without being able to fight the AoW, so any guild that could kill big bad was unable to do so until the Statue respawned. This was another of those problems that arose because of time zone differences.

According to a thread on the Safehouse, a big change now eliminates that problem. After the Statue dies, a new mob called The Idol of Rallos Zek spawns. This new guy doesn't drop any loot; he's merely a trigger mob. Kill the Idol (who is still pretty tough) and the AoW rides again.

Assuming the Idol doesn't despawn until the Statue spawns again, this change is a really good one. It fixes the problem of "accidentally" spawning the AoW when you kill the Statue, so both AoW and non-AoW guilds can have the shot at the mobs they want. Oh, and the AoW's sword got upgraded, by the way.

[Papadacus]

You get 1 hour of attempts on AoW before he despawns after your final wipe and the timer has expired.

AoW was killed two times several months before Luclin release -- This AoW was the one designed to be unkillable. Super resistant to spells, and only able to be giant charm tanked. After two kills, the ability to charm in Kael was removed, and they slowly tuned him. This new version was then finally killed, months later, the day before Luclin release on Nameless and Veeshan, nearly simultaneously.

Around this time, a large resist patch was introduced which trivialized much of the high end raiding content just before Luclin release. Previously, most raid mobs were highly resistant, to the point where casters didn't do much except decrease everyone's fps (save for dragon/giant bane wizards).