Who lays claim?

[TheDudeAbides]

Originally Posted by Uaellaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

that is where you should stop .. G A M E ... not W O R K ... if this turns into work, you doing something wrong

I don't disagree, but if you want to kill raid mobs on this server it's become a second job.

DA didn't make it that way. IB did with their 24/7 track cycles, leatherfoot cap gating to zone in wherever they needed to be within 10 min, leapfrogging/cockblocking ways.

What you see now is adaptation and the slippery slope. Who knows how far it will go. It is what it is.

[Cyrano]

I seem to recall an instance where DA jumped ahead of both Trans and IB in terms of the 15 in zone to attack Draco.

Modus calling out anyone on in game discussions is ridiculous. You've trained us on multiple occasions and even with screenshots Durison hasn't touched you. The idea that you guys have removed the so-called "problem" members is laughable. DA's most dedicated member is also it's most underhanded, you set the bar so high (or low depending who's view you take) that anything short of hacking is acceptable behavior in DA.

On the flip side, I realize this isn't true of everyone. I think Loke is a cool guy and have enjoyed the few interactions I've shared with him.

[Cyrano]

And on the rule issue, I think the vast majority of IB wants it to be FFA.

The entire reason Wonton made this post was the shed light on the fact that the current raid climate has changed from when those rules were created.

When those rules were created they were put in place to prevent leapfrogging and protect guilds that were legitimately in a zone clearing when a mob popped. DA is already camping multiple raid zones with 15+ so they might game the system, but now their raids are apparently open to all meaning we have to go through a system of checks with every person in the zone, summon a GM to make sure we won't get banned for attacking a mob instead of playing the game it was originally meant to be played; as an open competition.

[Prospect]

Originally Posted by TheDudeAbides [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Says the guy who has done nothing with his life for the last 6 months except sit in a zone and camp a raid mob 24/7. At least the other guild makes everyone put in the work equally. You've just been someone's little bitch

Well, had you taken up my offer on the powerleveling, I would have managed to do something else!

You could have saved me from the torment! It breaks my heart that I will now have to collectively share my poop socking with 14 other people. DAMN YOU P99!

[Armin34]

Originally Posted by Cyrano [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And on the rule issue, I think the vast majority of IB wants it to be FFA.

The entire reason Wonton made this post was the shed light on the fact that the current raid climate has changed from when those rules were created.

When those rules were created they were put in place to prevent leapfrogging and protect guilds that were legitimately in a zone clearing when a mob popped. DA is already camping multiple raid zones with 15+ so they might game the system, but now their raids are apparently open to all meaning we have to go through a system of checks with every person in the zone, summon a GM to make sure we won't get banned for attacking a mob instead of playing the game it was originally meant to be played; as an open competition.

Sounds like a bunch of crying

Here is what Nilbog posted on the Raid Rules / Reference : http://www.project1999.org/forums/sh...ht=raid+target

FAQ

Q: What is a raid force?
A: For technicalities sake we will define a raid force as a gathering of 15+ people.

Q: What if I engage first?
A: If you are not the first raid force at a target, and you engage the creature before their 30 minute grace period is up then those involved in breaking the rules will be banned for fourteen days for the first offense.

Q: Both guilds got here simultaneously. What do we do?
A: In the rare case that both guilds feel they got there first than you can either work out a compromise on your own or if in a dire need, use random 100... srsly.

Q: Can we continue to camp the raid mobs?
A: Certainly. If you want to have fifteen of your guild members sitting at every spawn site (six mobs to be precise) for 96 hours straight anticipating a spawn with the ability to mobilize not only those fifteen people but as well as any other required members to kill your intended target, all within the 30 minute time frame. By all means go ahead. I am sure after a few failed sessions due to not being able to mobilize quick enough, people won`t be willing to sit there for 4 days straight for months on end.

Q: Can we stall for time?
A: We understand that sometimes you have to stop to buff or med up or prep or whatever. Please avoid stalling for time for the sake of stalling. If you are the only guild after a target than you are free to to take your time, but as soon as a second guild is sitting behind you prepping that should be your sign to speed things up and get to the target (if you are not already there).

Q: Will the planes be open to everyone?
A: Yes. Please be respectful to your fellow players and respect their space. If there is a guild getting ready to raid Hate for some armour and they start pulling creatures, don`t go up there and sit on top of them pulling mobs in their area as well. If Guild A is doing Hate, then perhaps Guild B should be doing Fear. Basically, don`t be a douche bag.

Q: Why is there a spawn variance? This isn`t classic!
A: While we strive to be as accurate as we can in terms of classic content, this is something that we feel is necessary to keep things running smooth. The spawn variance method we believe will prove to promote both fairness and competition. Please note that we do not refresh the mob spawn times with a crash or patch. On live all raid targets re-spawned with a patch which usually caused bunches of raid targets to spawn. So on live Nagafen or Vox kills were not always exactly one week apart.

Q: Why did you remove the rotation?
A: While the rotation has worked extremely well in the past few weeks, it has always been seen as a temporary solution. It works great when there are only two guilds that are involved but as soon as more guilds get closer to being able to raid it becomes a little bit less viable and thus we have decided upon a spawn variance.

Q: Where can I deposit my tears?
A: As always your tears and crying of favouritism are important to us; for without you we couldn`t possibly run things around there. You are the wind beneath my wings. Please direct your tears to the Petition/Exploit Forum or in more serious cases of hissy fits, Nilbog's Inbox.

Cyrano ^


It appears IB is whining because they don't have the luxury of staying logged off and waiting for a cellphone text message. Now they have to compete with camping for a mob. How is this possible?!

[Modus]

Originally Posted by Armin34 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It appears IB is whining because they don't have the luxury of staying logged off and waiting for a cellphone text message. Now they have to compete with camping for a mob.

This.

[Erasong]

Originally Posted by Zyvixious [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you guys invited daverik. While not a trainer ( that i know of ) hes been caught doing equal asshattery all over the server. /thread

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this effin guy has to be kiddin me? dam retards make it an issue to get my name spread i must be friggen good !

you've done a fine job of spreading your own name. If you feel the need to be E-famous, and feel the need to do it by being one of the largest douches online, feel free. No one can stop you and hell I dont even really care. My bringing up your name had little to do with you ( trust me you arent that important ) in particular and more to do with peoples reputations and getting guild invites. I happen to know a few good people in DA so I wont judge them as a whole, but your rep proceeds you and thats what surprised me.

[kariden]

Originally Posted by Otto [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

so they could slander and libel against people they don't even know.

oh shit son, best call the legal department and start demanding some Platinum pieces in compensation.

Ironic you would use the terms "slander" and "libel" when referring about a virtual world, a place where such terms have zero meaning.

This is a good read, however some of you need trolling lessons.

[Cyrano]

QQ

[Derpus]

this remains a p good thread despite some v bad posting at times. keep up the good work gentlemen.