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Old 04-17-2012, 11:53 AM
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I don't really agree with that assessment. It takes a particular level of dedication to track at all hours of the day and batphone at all hours of the day on the quest for pixels. If things spawn between 2am and noon on a weekday I'm betting only TMO and VD could field a force of 30 people to down most high end targets.

Maybe at one point variance was good for the server but currently it only caters to the hardcore raiding guilds. Trak spawned at 2am last night and TMO smoked him with no competition. Most other guilds aren't going to wake up for pixels with work in the morning. I'd be surprised if Taken had more than 12 for talendor this morning.
+10000.

Variance was implemented because people would simply park 150 players on the spawn point, blow the mob away in 10 seconds, and then the GMs would have to check their encounter logs to figure out who won. It works by making raiding so annoying in terms of tracking and batphoning that most people don't do it.
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Old 04-17-2012, 12:00 PM
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I don't really understand the dislike of variance. If there is no or minimal variance then the raid content is only available at a fixed time. If that time happens to be 4am then it's going to be 4am for weeks at a time. The people complaining that TMO gets everything because they are willing to track and batphone are going to be complaining that TMO gets the non-variance mobs because they spawn in the night or during work hours. Variance at least gives a chance of the mob spawning during casual guild prime time. Fixed 7 day cycle on the efreeti cycle in sky doesn't seem to be helping non-TMO guilds get those mobs. Also variance makes mobilization fun!
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Old 04-17-2012, 12:07 PM
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so i really though it was cool that tmo was leaving up a selected dragon each week till i found out that when talendor spawned and acyrid decided to give it a whirl with 4 groups tmo decides to take it out instead. so much for leaving a dragon up for others to play with. if u are gonna leave a dragon up...then maybe...just maybe u should do what u say u are gonna do
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Old 04-17-2012, 12:14 PM
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so i really though it was cool that tmo was leaving up a selected dragon each week till i found out that when talendor spawned and acyrid decided to give it a whirl with 4 groups tmo decides to take it out instead. so much for leaving a dragon up for others to play with. if u are gonna leave a dragon up...then maybe...just maybe u should do what u say u are gonna do
Lol Goodies, are you really that ignorant? You're Acyrid's leader and you really don't know, even after reading this thread, exactly what happened there?
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Old 04-17-2012, 12:28 PM
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I don't really agree with that assessment. It takes a particular level of dedication to track at all hours of the day and batphone at all hours of the day on the quest for pixels. If things spawn between 2am and noon on a weekday I'm betting only TMO and VD could field a force of 30 people to down most high end targets.

Maybe at one point variance was good for the server but currently it only caters to the hardcore raiding guilds. Trak spawned at 2am last night and TMO smoked him with no competition. Most other guilds aren't going to wake up for pixels with work in the morning. I'd be surprised if Taken had more than 12 for talendor this morning.
You're ignoring the fact that people outside of US EST/PST prime time play this game.

If there were no variance at all, the same people whose scheduled matched up with the spawn would be there each week. People that live/work in different time zones/schedules would be out of luck. With a variance, any guild has a chance at stuff like Maestro/Innoruuk during a normal Hate clear. Just like draco/CT in Fear.
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Old 04-17-2012, 12:35 PM
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I mean, without a rotation of some sort, no guild other than TMO or VD will get high end mobs. And VD won't get many at that either. Ball's in TMO's court. Not saying that they have to do something or that they are obligated to, just that they are the decision makers here.
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Old 04-17-2012, 12:43 PM
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so i really though it was cool that tmo was leaving up a selected dragon each week till i found out that when talendor spawned and acyrid decided to give it a whirl with 4 groups tmo decides to take it out instead. so much for leaving a dragon up for others to play with. if u are gonna leave a dragon up...then maybe...just maybe u should do what u say u are gonna do
If you are really that concerned of their doings, they did exactly as they have been claiming since Gore:

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*We are still kinda mad at VD and may race them to any uncontested mob
** Mobs are chosen by Officer discretion and may change with out announcement
***TMO reserves the right to cancel this promotion as they see fit with out due compensation.
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*We are still kinda mad at VD and may race them to any uncontested mob
** Mobs are chosen by Officer discretion and may change with out announcement
***TMO reserves the right to cancel this promotion as they see fit with out due compensation.
Translation: Teaming up with VD = Breaking their No-VD clause on Section Dragon, Article Potato.

Therefore, they stepped in and Denied VD, as per said. That's your fault for teaming up with them, not theirs.

That's the way the cookie crumbles.


Oh, and btw Chest we had I think 15 or 16 out there?
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Old 04-17-2012, 12:45 PM
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I mean, without a rotation of some sort, no guild other than TMO or VD will get high end mobs. And VD won't get many at that either. Ball's in TMO's court. Not saying that they have to do something or that they are obligated to, just that they are the decision makers here.
Obviously their ball is in their court.
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Old 04-17-2012, 12:47 PM
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no jeremy im not ignorant....i have heard everything that went down this morning. kinda sad to pick off charmed people during a guilds turn just so u guys could take the dragon out yourselves. i get facts before calling anyone out. when my cell and in game PM's blow up for over an hour on the subject i will say something. dont get mad jeremy. if u really got something to say...take it to tells...ill go head to head with u in a heartbeat
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Old 04-17-2012, 12:49 PM
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I'm livid, if you couldn't tell =)
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