Wizard dps vs melee in groups?

[Scavrefamn]

Is it as abysmal as I've heard?

Are wizards pure garbage in the Kunark era like so many people are saying?

Does anyone have a parse?

[Slave]

Pure garbage. A meleeing shaman will put out more dps over time, I'd say. And that is not something that you would generally consider to be an efficient use of a shaman.

[Noselacri]

Really poor in a chain-pulling xp group. Especially if you're killing yellow and sometimes red mobs, as you often do while leveling.

[Holey]

i say wizards are BURST damage, not LONG term killing

[Swish]

Unfortunately, if the dps wasn't enough of a problem I've been getting into groups with wizards who enjoy an extended AFK far too often. You'd think if you played a wizard and spent lots of time LFG that you'd want to impress the group you're in. Not so, at least not lately.

It's a class that attracts the AFKers, with every other "sitter" except maybe druids having to get up and heal or send a pet in each fight.

Only way to deal with them is to kick them after 5 minutes afk...90% of the time they're back within the next 30 seconds and don't do it again.

Give me a second ranger over a wizard... there, I said it...

[Psionide]

The wizard class is a very niche class to play ask anybody who plays a wizard seriously and enjoys it. Nobody makes a wiz thinking "I really wanna outdamage the rogue in groups." Theres been so much palaver over such a simple one dimensional class. I mean there not so bad in a regular kill session chill group with some sort of C. Letting the wiz be the executioner of mobs while the puller ran to get more at certain percentages.

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[Scavrefamn]

Originally Posted by Psionide [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nobody makes a wiz thinking "I really wanna outdamage the rogue in groups."

On the Fippy Darkpaw progression server a few years back, that's exactly why I started a Wizard.

To be the highest dps... and I was <3
Across many expansions actually.

But live progression servers are extremely different from Project 1999 which is far more faithful to classic.


I WANT to play a Wizard, but I don't want to be severely crippled in terms of DPS the way this thread leads me to believe.

[Nips]

Originally Posted by Scavrefamn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

On the Fippy Darkpaw progression server a few years back, that's exactly why I started a Wizard.

To be the highest dps... and I was <3
Across many expansions actually.

But live progression servers are extremely different from Project 1999 which is far more faithful to classic.


I WANT to play a Wizard, but I don't want to be severely crippled in terms of DPS the way this thread leads me to believe.

How is it different? I think you guys had post nerf ice comet and post nerf sunstrike, whereas here, it is pre nerf? Could be wrong. Pre nerf is far better then post nerf, they really gimped those spells. Only other differences would be item spell specs, but they had those for melee too, and they are just as effective.
Only thing that made wizzys better on the progression servers were xpacks like PoP, in which wizzys were complete own.

[Scavrefamn]

Man, the sledge hammer reality of this thread has made me not want to play my Wizard alt, ever.

Lol.

[Flunklesnarkin]

Originally Posted by Scavrefamn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Man, the sledge hammer reality of this thread has made me not want to play my Wizard alt, ever.

Lol.

wizards do quite well solo... aoe kiting