Patch Notes, Wednesday May 5th, 2010

[Tudana]

Originally Posted by Haynar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

As always, we sometimes do go overboard, with what we intended. If we knocked out too many messages, we can always add them back to be consistent with classic.

Due to the complexity in some of the code, there can be many different paths which fire off a message. Or cancel a bard song, for that matter. I hate to say it, but you guys are sometimes our beta testers for patches. With our limited resources, it is often difficult for us to do regression testing for every change.

Please continue to provide feedback, and we will strive to always make the server better.

Haynar

hehe, this is the most honest and up front I have ever seen from a dev over patch notes. I have never heard this from a Live dev team.

P1999 rocks ever harder now in my eyes!
/hug you guys!

[jettoki]

Originally Posted by Rogean [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Can someone give me an accurate description of what command used to show pet buffs and exactly how it was outputted.

(I'm talking about the command one that was just text).

/pet report health --- displays the pets health as a percentage and also lists all current buffs on pet in text form.

From: http://jaburt.com/eq/eq_commands.htm

This source includes a lot of post-Luclin commands, so I don't know how accurate it is. No mention is made of the actual output format, and I don't know how many players will remember it.

I'm guessing it looked something like "I am at % percent health. Spell effects on me: Skin like Wood, Spirit of Wolf"

[Rogean]

I thought I remembered it being something like:
I am at % percent health.
Skin like Wood, 24s
Spirit of Wolf, 4m

[AR3151]

DAMN! i like the spell worn off message!

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[Mady]

Originally Posted by nilbog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I remember unnecessarily casting buffs on myself, just to know when they would fade from subsequent casts on group members :P

Did the same thing.

[rlsmmo]

Originally Posted by Rogean [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Can someone give me an accurate description of what command used to show pet buffs and exactly how it was outputted.

(I'm talking about the command one that was just text).

It used to do it way back when, if you did: /pet report health

That would show it like /pet health, but would also list the buffs.

I do not recall exactly what it looked like, been too long, sorry.

Regarding worn off messages - I played main enchanter, secondary shaman. These are what I recall:

- Worn off messages did not get displayed. I had to watch a mob to see if root broke, mez broke, etc. I had to time mezzes in my head or with a timer (many people would use hardware timer). DOTs were the same way, there were no messages for dot damage, and you had to time when it would wear off. Buffs were much the same, even in Kunark. I remember being in KC tower, for example, with my shaman - and would time certain buffs (e.g., stats) by casting on myself first, while with others (haste, regen), I would just let them ask me for it. Enchanter was same way, for like, doing CC in tower, I remember that, and timing RM or C2 - but not haste, would have them ask.

IMO, while there might be things you do to the world to make things more balance or fun (respawn timers, etc.), it seems if you want to maintain true classic, then they need to be off - even though that was an "annoying" feature. heh. (so was having to remember to turn on run every time you logged in!).

[Bumamgar]

Enchanters had to time mezzes in their head or with an egg-timer so they could remez BEFORE it wore off, not because there wasn't a message when it did.

There were definitely wore-off messages for mez, root and other detrimental effects from day one. There were *not* wore off messages for buffs and other beneficial spells.

[km2783]

I know when I started playing before 2000 they were not there. By Kunark I wasn't playing a caster, though, so I don't know exactly when it was implimented. Well, I had a Cleric for a brief time in Kunark and I still don't remember the messages.

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Originally Posted by Bumamgar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Enchanters had to time mezzes in their head or with an egg-timer so they could remez BEFORE it wore off, not because there wasn't a message when it did.

There were definitely wore-off messages for mez, root and other detrimental effects from day one. There were *not* wore off messages for buffs and other beneficial spells.

This is how I remember things when I played a caster

**edit** looky what me found...

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[mgellan]

Originally Posted by nilbog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I remember unnecessarily casting buffs on myself, just to know when they would fade from subsequent casts on group members :P

/agree, I used to do this as well...

[nilbog]

Originally Posted by Rogean [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Can someone give me an accurate description of what command used to show pet buffs and exactly how it was outputted.

(I'm talking about the command one that was just text).

OK! Now I did play a magician.

Originally, up until post Velious, if you /pet report health, it would return a value of

I have # percent of my hit points left. (in white text) Nothing else, no messages about buffs.

#488 in eqstr_us.txt

I have %1 percent of my hit points left.

Log from 2001.

15:33 aqua goblin bosun scowls at you, ready to attack -- looks like quite a gamble.
15:41 Taunting Attacker Master.
15:43 You begin casting Shock of Flame.
15:46 aqua goblin bosun was hit by non-melee for 92 points of damage.
15:46 Aqua goblin bosun's skin ignites.
15:46 Aqua goblin bosun hits Jonarab for 20 points of damage.
15:46 Aqua goblin bosun kicks Jonarab for 5 points of damage.
15:47 Taunting Attacker Master.
15:49 You haven't recovered yet...
15:49 Aqua goblin bosun hits Jonarab for 14 points of damage.
15:49 Jonarab begins to cast a spell.
15:50 You begin casting Shield of Fire.
15:52 Jonarab is enveloped by flame.
15:52 Aqua goblin bosun hits Jonarab for 24 points of damage.
15:54 Aqua goblin bosun kicks Jonarab for 5 points of damage.
15:54 You begin casting Shock of Flame.
15:56 Jonarab begins to cast a spell.
15:57 aqua goblin bosun was hit by non-melee for 38 points of damage.
15:57 Aqua goblin bosun's skin ignites.
15:58 Aqua goblin bosun hits Jonarab for 40 points of damage.
15:59 Taunting Attacker Master.
16:00 I have 70 percent of my hit points left.
16:02 You begin casting Shock of Flame.
16:02 Jonarab begins to cast a spell.
16:04 aqua goblin bosun was hit by non-melee for 92 points of damage.
16:04 Aqua goblin bosun's skin ignites.
16:05 Taunting Attacker Master.
16:06 I have 70 percent of my hit points left.
16:07 Aqua goblin bosun hits Jonarab for 14 points of damage.
16:07 Aqua goblin bosun hits Jonarab for 4 points of damage.
16:08 You begin casting Shock of Flame.

As you see here, even after casting the damage shield, the next /pet report health only returned a value of hitpoints in %.

Later on, it turned into this.

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And finally... it turned into this.

I have 100 percent of my hit points left.
Spiritual Ascendence 57:24
Growl of the Beast 32:36
Spirit of Irionu 12:12
Hobble of Spirits 19:48
Savage Wildcaller's Blessing 0:42

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http://crucible.samanna.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=217
http://forums.beastlords.org/index.p...e;topic=2604.0
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