TMO raid suspension secretly lifted

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Rusl [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Rofl you had just as many suspended as we did, Rogean said so himself.

Lies, you had double digits more people suspended.

[Banditfist]

Alarti calling someone a liar? Is this the first time you have ever posted something not in RnF? Credibility=0l

[Splorf22]

Look if TMO wants to argue that their raid suspension was wrong/misguided, fine. I've never seen the video, and I wasn't there, so I can't judge.

But I hope Amelinda realizes that she has just totally sabotaged her credibility with everyone now. Repealing the ban was already a bad idea. What happened to "it's time for the raiding guilds to take me seriously?" Well no one is going to take you seriously when you flip-flop on your decisions based on facebook posts, and then try to hide this by telling TMO to keep it quiet.

If you want a decent raiding community on P1999, you need to do:
1] Zonewide shouts on first aggro
2] Periodic server repops every ~2 weeks
3] Full variance: give every raid mob a 1/N chance to spawn every tick thus eliminating poopsocking
4] "Raid Guild Petition forum" where each guildleader gets a maximum of 2 petitions per week, fraps is required, EVERYONE can see the evidence, and EVERY petition is answered.
5] Actual consistency with enforcing decisions.

[Nirgon]

Originally Posted by Splorf22 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But I hope Amelinda realizes that she has just totally sabotaged her credibility with everyone now.

God I wish I could GM this blue server.

You wouldn't think just twice but three times before acting like this.

I would be beating the shit out of people.

[tekniq]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

God I wish I could GM this blue server.

You wouldn't think just twice but three times before acting like this.

I would be beating the shit out of people.

here you go http://www.project1999.org/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=33

[Raavak]

Originally Posted by Splorf22 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I've never seen the video, and I wasn't there, so I can't judge.

Repealing the ban was already a bad idea.

If TMO was wrongly accused why should they be punished?

Originally Posted by Xasten

Oh, I agree the situation is quite unfortunate. I think neither guild should have been suspended, and any punishments should have been on an individual level.

[Splorf22]

Originally Posted by Raavak [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If TMO was wrongly accused why should they be punished?

Hmm that kinda disappeared in the editing but what I wanted to say was that the best approach would have been 'oh well, suck it up for 48 hours and try not to be in so many petitions' but if she had posted the video on the forums, why she decided it was worth of a ban, and why she changed her mind, I could respect that. But doing this in secret and then attempting to cover it up is just terrible.

[Raavak]

Originally Posted by Splorf22 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

'oh well, suck it up for 48 hours and try not to be in so many petitions'

I sucked it up for 120 hours for doing nothing wrong.

[Splorf22]

Originally Posted by Raavak [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I sucked it up for 120 hours for doing nothing wrong.

Wow, way to quote out of context. As I said 90% of my problem was the manner in which things were handled [facebook posts, secret meetings] rather than the actual decisions. and if I were Amelinda I would make my decisions final for the simple reason that I wouldn't want to be listening to appeals all the time.

FWIW, I think the original ban was handled poorly too for the simple reason that TMO didn't get a chance to respond. Which is why I feel we need a PUBLIC petition forum, where only guildleaders can post etc etc.

[Raavak]

Originally Posted by Splorf22 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wow, way to quote out of context.

Sorry bro, I guess that's just how I feel about what went down. No offense intended.

FWIW, I think the original ban was handled poorly too for the simple reason that TMO didn't get a chance to respond. Which is why I feel we need a PUBLIC petition forum, where only guildleaders can post etc etc.

I think there is a forum, for discussion anyway?