Proposal to the TMO leadership

[Tiggles]

TMO is the best guild on the server and if they say they want those shit bag VD players off the rotation then they go off the rotation.


iB can't do much if they still want to continue grabbing the loot WE LET them have.

The rotation was mostly because we wared to farm loot at our leisure not because we where afraid some over the hill former raiding guild was going to take our dragons

[Autotune]

Also, it's not that we want IB and VD to merge. Most TMO don't even care now that VD is off the rotation (where they should be).


If VD has a problem with it, just say so, don't mask your anger under "TMO will get less loots this way!!! zomg wtf you thinking"

You just sound like a whiny bitch that has to earn their foodstamps.

[M.Bison]

Originally Posted by TMFail [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Stealin confirmed mad

[Splorf22]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Also, it's not that we want IB and VD to merge. Most TMO don't even care now that VD is off the rotation (where they should be).


If VD has a problem with it, just say so, don't mask your anger under "TMO will get less loots this way!!! zomg wtf you thinking"

You just sound like a whiny bitch that has to earn their foodstamps.

Sounds like some serious projection. I'm not masking my anger - Trakanon doesn't drop any enchanter items :P And in fact, there is only 1 really good VP item for us and I refuse to wear the Robe of Azure sky after seeing the look.

I'm saying that you guys are going to get less loot in the current situation. You are already down 1 Trakanon. Now you can say we suck, it wasn't contested, blah blah . . but the point is you guys missed out. And you're going to continue to miss raid targets simply because you can't be everywhere at once. I'm sorry if that cold hard logic upsets you.

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by Splorf22 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sounds like some serious projection. I'm not masking my anger - Trakanon doesn't drop any enchanter items :P And in fact, there is only 1 really good VP item for us and I refuse to wear the Robe of Azure sky after seeing the look.

I'm saying that you guys are going to get less loot in the current situation. You are already down 1 Trakanon. Now you can say we suck, it wasn't contested, blah blah . . but the point is you guys missed out. And you're going to continue to miss raid targets simply because you can't be everywhere at once. I'm sorry if that cold hard logic upsets you.

Yeah, we are down 1 trak, but we will gain another supposedly by VD's math. Looks like it's going to even out or even gain in the long run. We just get to have more fun doing it.

also, your cold hard logic isn't very logical, it's nothing more than speculation.

[quido]

"Nooo, you guys don't wanna do that - you're, um, gonna get less merbs!"


Is VD a dece raiding guild at this point? Yes

Does VD stand around and wait for IB to pull the mobs? Yes

Has VD killed contested mobs without IB? Sort of

Has VD proven themselves? No


Until VD demonstrates that they would be willing to be perpetually engaged in a lair camp without big brother IB's help, they haven't really proven that they deserve a rotation slot.

[Splorf22]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah, we are down 1 trak, but we will gain another supposedly by VD's math. Looks like it's going to even out or even gain in the long run. We just get to have more fun doing it.

also, your cold hard logic isn't very logical, it's nothing more than speculation.

Well if your idea of having fun is camping out at Trak's lair, I'd say you've done exactly the right thing.

As stated before I don't really like rotations - I like racing better. The problem is with targets spread out the way they are, racing becomes poopsocking and sitting at your computer with your main camped out waiting to log in and IMO that's a retarded way to compete for raid mobs.

Anyway you guys seem happy with the current situation, so we'll see how it plays out!

[Fazlazen]

Not much to do on the main anyways.

[Lazortag]

I'm not involved, but I have to say it looks silly to invest more time for proportionally less loot. Allow me to explain with an example. Player A gets 1 piece of dragon loot in 1 hour of tracking/killing a dragon. Player B gets 2 pieces of dragon loot in 10 hours of tracking/killing dragons. Player B may have more loot, but player A gets more loot per hour of time invested. Who would you honestly prefer to be, player A or player B?

[quido]

Originally Posted by Fazlazen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not much to do on the main anyways.

I hear that!

Man I sure would feel differently about this all if IB and VD didn't act as a single guild 95% of the time on non-rotation targets! It makes it kind of hard for someone who is really stupid (such as myself) to distinguish.

IB: pull your pet guild off of us on rotation targets or you're gonna be there with us.