Proposal to the TMO leadership

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he's been gone from taken, that's why I like them lol.

[Diggles]

statement still stands

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reporting peak's avatar for nudity.

[Szeth]

Originally Posted by quido [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Let's see how long IB's Trakanons remain uncontested while ours are being contested =)

Hope you're a TMO officer making threats like that. Didn't take long for the true colors to show.

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Originally Posted by Splorf22 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I can't believe I'm being drawn into the RnF whirlpool but you seem to be a smart guy. I totally understand this point of view too, that VD/IB looks like 1 megaguild (similar to DA/TMO premerger perhaps), and that VD generally speaking hasn't raced to targets successfully (we can kill them, but our mobilization is somewhat slower).

Here is my question: how do you guys expect to get more raid mobs without a rotation? If a TMO Trakanon spawns every 6 days and is in window for 18 hours on average, that means your mains are going to be stuck on poop mountain 15% of the time. It's hard to imagine that you are going to beat IB/VD to mobs like Gore, Tal, Sev, Cazic, Inny, Maestro, or Draco without your mains (I know Faz has 3+ max toons but not everyone in your guild does). So if we assume you beat VD 9/10 on Trak you're going to get 45% of Trakanons instead of 33%, which you guys are getting 1 extra Trak every 8 weeks in exchange for losing 1 raid target every week with your mains camped out.

Even if we assume that you guys just LOVE camping your mains out on poop mountain, it still seems like you're coming out behind just on pure quantity of loot. And if you are trying to keep us out of VP, it's basically too late. We're up to like 30 keyed members and could already probably kill some of the easier dragons. So regardless of how you feel about VD as a guild, breaking the rotation just doesn't make sense to me.

to some of us, it isn't all about the loot. I know to some, that just seems crazy, but just thought I'd throw that out there.

(I mean really aren't all about the loot, not some of that silly BS that a few people like to say and then run to put their names beside as much of it as they can first)

But while ur on numbers, if it's not that much of a difference loot wise (for people who seem to obviously care about it a great deal) why are so many upset about the new revision? Is it because you actually have to work for it now?

[M.Bison]

Originally Posted by quido [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Let's see how long IB's Trakanons remain uncontested while ours are being contested =)

Sounds like some ppl in your guild do care about loot. But keep that spin going anyway. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[quido]

Originally Posted by Szeth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hope you're a TMO officer making threats like that. Didn't take long for the true colors to show.

I am a TMO officer, but that is irrelevant in this discussion here. I was just talking about this with Diggle in IRC, actually. I don't speak for TMO, but this is my personal stance and I'm pretty sure I could get most of the guild behind me. Unless you guys aren't raiding together, it's one and the same to me whether it's IB or VD contesting our Trakanons. Y'all force us to camp in the lair for long and we might just stay there!

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[Szeth]

You say you think you can get everyone behind you Jeremy, but I know some of your member claim publicly that they will *NEVER* camp at the ledge again.

Splitting TMO into factions seems like a great idea!

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"What we've got here is failure to communicate
Some men you just can't reach...
So, you get what we had here last week
Which is the way he wants it!
Well, he gets it!
N' I don't like it any more than you men" *
(whistle)

Look at your young men fighting
Look at your women crying
Look at your young men dying
The way they've always done before

Look at the hate we're breeding
Look at the fear we're feeding
Look at the lives we're leading
The way we've always done before

My hands are tied
The billions shift from side to side
And the wars go on with brainwashed pride
For the love of god and our human rights
And all these things are swept aside
By bloody hands time can't deny
And are washed away by your genocide
And history hides the lies of our civil wars

D'you wear a black armband
When they shot the man
Who said "peace could last forever"
And in my first memories
They shot Kennedy
I went numb when I learned to see
So I never fell for Vietnam
We got the wall of D.C. to remind us all
That you can't trust freedom
When it's not in your hands
When everybody's fightin'
For their promised land
And

I don't need your civil war
It feeds the rich while it buries the poor
Your power hungry sellin' soldiers
In a human grocery store
Ain't that fresh
I don't need your civil war
Ow, oh no, no, no, no, no

Look at the shoes you're filling
Look at the blood we're spilling
Look at the world we're killing
The way we've always done before
Look in the doubt we've wallowed
Look at the leaders we've followed
Look at the lies we've swallowed
And I don't want to hear no more

My hands are tied
For all I've seen has changed my mind
But still the wars go on as the years go by
With no love of god or human rights
'Cause all these dreams are swept aside
By bloody hands of the hypnotized
Who carry the cross of homicide
And history bears the scars of our civil wars

"We practice selective annihilation of mayors and
Government officials for example to create a vacuum
Then we fill that vacuum as popular war advantage
Peace is closer" **

I don't need your civil war
It feeds the rich while it buries the poor
Your power hungry sellin' soldiers
In a human grocery store
Ain't that fresh
And I don't need your civil war
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no
I don't need your civil war
I don't need your civil war
Your power hungry sellin' soldiers
In a human grocery store
Ain't that fresh
I don't need your civil war
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no uh-oh-uh, no uh-oh, uh no
I don't need one more war

I don't need one more war
No, no, no, no uh-oh-uh, no uh-oh, uh no
Whaz so civil 'bout war anyway?
(whistle)