Red99 Stimulus Plan (some constructive feedback)

[Matador]

If every other person on the server manages to resurrect 1 friend from EQ darkness and into the light, well, that would add 100 people.

The server is fine, its a classic experience and you need to find new blood thats wants that again. Just talk to your friends that maybe havn't played / gotten burnt out on raiding on blue and see if they have the itch.

Make a real effort and try to get that 1 guy at least.

Asides from that just stay positive and advertise and play if you enjoy playing classic eq, and it may work itself out. Monkeys throwing poo just makes the place stink, and you can argue about making something better all day long, but yah, its good enough and just needs about 100 more fresh faces. We can do that.

[Rykk]

I will be the Electric Jesus and organize the complaints

From what I've read, the forums talk about 3 or 4 main issues

1. Slow Exp rate

2. Exp loss on a pvp death

3. Low server population

4. Thundering faggotry brought on by forum trolls

*I don't know how to fix 1-3 because of # 4 *
there is nothing I could say about those people that hasn't already been said a 100 times... but they are the few that pretty much keep the server from moving forward. Because let's be honest here, though this server sounded awesome, no one has time to do this grind with the pvp (except #4) That is all

[Nirgon]

Organize things people cry about

[Softcore PK]

Originally Posted by oldfish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you dont beleive its the xp loss thats causing some players to leave the server, maybe you could consider trying it on individual zones on a rotation for a trial basis. Rallos Zek players in the past enjoyed not having xp loss in pvp.

To me it feels as though the xp loss penalty from dying in pvp is discouraging pvp.

The grind in EQ has always been very harsh, and this xp loss only serves to make it that much harder.

"But people will bindrush," say those who disagree with my stance on xp loss. And I agree with them on this one point, though those of us from Rallos called this pvp xD

Either xp loss is a nonfactor or its a deterrent to dying in pvp, it's one or the other. I cant remember exactly but im pretty sure some of the same people are saying that xp loss is necessary to prevent bindrushing but at the same time that its a nonfactor. This doesn't make sense to me. Even if it's not the same people that are making both of these claims, different people have come out and stated both of these things.

The server already seems to have lost lots of players, so something big needs to happen for this to turn around now. PvP needs to be happening so that we can tell people, "Hey join this server, we are having lots of fun!" Thats why i pushed hard in the beginning to have xp loss removed.

I don't feel right advertising on forums, because I personally do not find this server to be fun anymore. That's not to say that other people are not enjoying it, this is just the opinion of one player.

Sorry to be abrasive and unhelpful like this, just trying to give some feedback the only way I seem to know how. I really wanted to get the Rallos experience i had back in 2001, but it doesn't seem to be happening for me. Ill come back if it ever changes to my liking, but xp loss would need to be removed :/

I think for most people, grinding is not enjoyable, and we've all done it at least once before.

Some of us rolled here to pvp, and xp loss is making the pve grind even more arduous. If we take a break from the pve to pvp for a while, we fall behind our friends (and enemies lol!) and then we feel a little discouraged. So some of us try to burn to 50 and then burn out at 30, like i did. Or join a zerg guild like holocaust for safety and big numbers. On Rallos, it never mattered if you were outnumbered, because you could just bindrush to harass the people that killed you. I feel as though you have removed this guerrilla tactic from the server by including xp loss upon pvp death, which only serves to empower the zerg guilds and keep the black man down.

Edited for Nilbog. The above is not my opinion :P

[Rykk]

softcore, you're the exact thing I mentioned in the above. The whiny douche that provides nothing but an edited *to go with their skewed opinion* post.

Posting that it is NOT your opinion does not help you save face either

[Softcore PK]

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[Cast]

Why does anyone even read oldfishes posts anymore? I think he copy pastes the same complaint about pvp exp loss... dude its barely 1% of a level. If it took you 10 hours to make one lvl, one pvp death would cost you 6minutes. There hasnt been a second on this server pvping where i thought oh shit if i die im gonna lose a whole 1% exp!! Ive had people purposely attack guards to avoid a pvp death. Please stop posting about it, pvp exp loss is a nonissue

[Softcore PK]

In my opinion, armageddon threads like this are hurting the population. We can advertise it and hopefully get some new players.. but when those advertisements lead to stuff like this? Ugh, lol.

You people are never going to be content with this. We (myself included) begged and pleaded the devs for a chance at getting back into classic PvP EQ, and now that we have it you seem to hate it. Posters like oldfish threaten to quit every other day. What gives?

This certainly isn't bringing any new players in. And if you don't like the server because of some perceived issue with the game, the least you could do is be constructive and polite about it. The devs don't owe us anything, however you may feel.

Are you all just complaining to pass the time? Are you capable of enjoying anything?

Nell is having a blast. Would you care to join me? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Lazortag]

I agree with Nell, if people perceive that the server is dying, then the server is more likely to actually die. This perception is reinforced by the dozens of posts every day talking about the declining population. It's kind of like how I'd always say that Blood Money was dying. I didn't know if it was true, I just wanted people to believe it because I didn't like them.

I'm also having lots of fun on the server. It's not my preferred ruleset, but I don't care, it's still the best pvp server I've ever played on.

[oldfish]

Originally Posted by Softcore PK [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In my opinion, armageddon threads like this are hurting the population. We can advertise it and hopefully get some new players.. but when those advertisements lead to stuff like this? Ugh, lol.

You people are never going to be content with this. We (myself included) begged and pleaded the devs for a chance at getting back into classic PvP EQ, and now that we have it you seem to hate it. Posters like oldfish threaten to quit every other day. What gives?

This certainly isn't bringing any new players in. And if you don't like the server because of some perceived issue with the game, the least you could do is be constructive and polite about it. The devs don't owe us anything, however you may feel.

Are you all just complaining to pass the time? Are you capable of enjoying anything?

Nell is having a blast. Would you care to join me? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Im not threatning to quit, i quit already. Just saying why i quit, because all i wanted in november was for this server to be popular and have fun on it. So i do care about the server enough to give feedback.

"We (myself included) begged and pleaded the devs for a chance at getting back into classic PvP EQ, and now that we have it you seem to hate it"

No matter what people like Cast and you say, xp loss is having an effect on the frequency of pvp happening, im pretty sure of it. This is nothing like Rallos, we dont "have it". You dont have people staying in the same zone and fighting for hours. I have literally seen this 0 times, never.