Crowdsourcing Velious

[nilbog]

Originally Posted by Splorf22 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

many people have finished Kunark by now.

It only seems this way because the max level players are also usually the most vocal in wanting new content. There are many players that haven't been to Sebilis, much less fought Kunark dragons.

I don't know the mechanics of how you edit the server files for quests, drops, factions, and so on

This sounds ominous.

, but it must be possible to make them available (and the editing programs as well) on the wiki.

I was right. It is ominous :T

Since the original launch of the server, we've been refining the methodology on exactly how we want things developed. Even if a developer knows mysql, perl, or c++, their submissions still have to meet our standards, by our guidelines.

You could then create another test server that rebooted every day with god mode and such so people could play with their changes. I'd absolutely be willing to spend a little time on this, and I think a lot of other people would too.

The biggest danger here would be people doing the usual wiki vandalism, but I think this could be minimized. First, we could follow the crowdsourcing phase with a period of the real devs checking things, beta testing etc. Second, just tie people's wiki accounts to their EQ accounts, and ban their characters if they are clearly manipulating things for their own benefit.

The sentiment is admirable, but that approach is disastrous.

Sorry, but none of this is going to happen. If you want to help make sure Velious gets done, I have several projects I can put together for community input that do not involve disclosing db or source.

Originally Posted by douglas1999 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I would, if only cause epics still aren't in and I'd like a realistic shot at ever getting mine.

Coming soon.

[yraapt]

Originally Posted by nilbog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This sounds ominous

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I was right. It is ominous :T

I LOLed

[Rais]

Originally Posted by nilbog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It only seems this way because the max level players are also usually the most vocal in wanting new content. There are many players that haven't been to Sebilis, much less fought Kunark dragons.
Coming soon.

You haven't seen the server recently in the past three weeks. Population around 200-350 during prime time*, and if there is a god/dragon spawn there are then at least 100-120 people in the zone.

Typically I would agree with you how it's always the max level players are the most vocal. It was like that on live, yet on here it's a polar opposite.

Expansions were always based off population and to pull people who stopped paying, to come back to EQ. It wasn't to give people more content to be in, it was to make more money.Keep people wanting to play= more money.

It was a cycle that happened on live, not on here though. The biggest reason is VP not being open on live. It allowed a influx of over 100 people to go into VP at the same time with soul bound keys. I also believe one mistake was having soul Bound VP keys. This allowed people to do VP with no risk. Trust me, CRs in VP could take hours on live, on here it takes under 10 mins.

If VP went in when Kunark went live, TR would have burnt out way before TMO/DA started to even have a group in VP. TMO/DA would have moved into VP opening other random dragons, and would have not bothered with anything other than besides a few Traks and VSs. This would have allowed all the other guilds who had the capabilities to kill all the other dragons and keep their interest high.

It would have opened more fresh content for all guilds if it was done as it was on live. We will once again have a small influx of people coming back when Epics will be put in. Some people would still be burnt out, but over all people would have more choices.

Now the server is down to 3 major guilds, when it was at one point an average of 45+ people in 6 of the "major guilds".

I understand you play with the hand you're dealt with. You had a lack of people with knowledge to code, develop or what have you. But to say most of the people on Blue99 haven't seen seb, is being a little dishonest. The server also had been out a long time where people NEEDED kunark to keep coming back. So I do understand why kunark was released without VP, or epics even being done. No one could have seen into the future on natural disasters that would happen and set things back, or devs quitting.

The most important thing if anything

If you want to help make sure Velious gets done, I have several projects I can put together for community input that do not involve disclosing db or source.

Make it happen. You won't have a flood of people willing to help*beta servers as example*, but you will have more than one or two people helping you as you do now. Not all of us have the master skills of a programmer, but we do enjoy what you have made here and want to help it anyway we can.

[Lindalind]

Originally Posted by Rais [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But to say most of the people on Blue99 haven't seen seb, is being a little dishonest.

Since nobody said that, saying it is a little misleading.

[Uthgaard]

Originally Posted by Lindalind [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Since nobody said that, saying it is a little misleading.

Originally Posted by nilbog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There are many players that haven't been to Sebilis

[Psionide]

its a shame this project couldve been so much better if the majority of the server werent a bunch of shit bags, quit a while ago and occasionally check these forums and its still the same fucking broken records. Holy shit theres nothing else you can do or play till velious comes out?