An Open Letter To Aruden

[Aruden]

If you took a majority vote about imprisoning Japanese-Americans in interim camps during WWII, the Japanese would have lost. Majority is insufficient with respect to racism that targets a minority.

http://www.project1999.org/forums/sh...ad.php?t=53259

At least 64 players find the name offensive. What more do the GMs need? Oh wait, we're playing on Project Nazi99.

[pickled_heretic]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

encounter any historian that makes a reference of a holocaust survivor yet doesn't give reference to time, race, religion, region. There is a great deal of probability that you would be completely wrong in assuming the survivor was jewish.

only if you lived in another time, and a different place. language is always contextual and always subjective. here, where we are all at, being a Holocaust survivor almost universally means that you were victim of and survived the nazi judeocide.

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by pickled_heretic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

only if you lived in another time, and a different place. language is always contextual and always subjective. here, where we are all at, being a Holocaust survivor almost universally means that you were victim of and survived the nazi judeocide.

Wrong again.

There were muslims that survived their holocaust, as well as some native americans. Does this mean those that survived are now jewish?

try again.

[pickled_heretic]

Originally Posted by Odonk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

lmao. back to google he goes for justification. you do know that if more people researched the Armenian Holocaust than the Jewish Holocaust it would appear first in google right? just because there is more interest in the Jewish Holocaust than the Armenian doesnt mean that the Jews have the word on lock down.

in that case, i only mentioned google because i'm sure most people don't know what isolating/synthetic languages are.

and yes, if most people used "holocaust" to refer to the armenian genocide, then that's what the word would mean. what is your point?

[pickled_heretic]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

try again.

Originally Posted by pickled_heretic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

there's nothing to try... encounter someone who says they are a holocaust survivor, and ask them what holocaust. that would be cute.

[Autotune]

encounter a muslim who says his/her ancestor was a holocaust survivor or any native american who also talks about how his/her ancestor survived a holocaust.

Jewish people are not the only ones who have survived hardships.

I sincerely hope you are trolling.

[pickled_heretic]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

encounter a muslim who says his/her ancestor was a holocaust survivor or any native american who also talks about how his/her ancestor survived a holocaust.

in both of those cases, i would still not need to know "what holocaust." that's the great thing about context in language.

And in either case - both of these events are still inappropriate for a guild name. this doesn't really strengthen your case, it makes it weaker, and it makes you look foolish. i know you're smarter than that.

[Odonk]

Originally Posted by pickled_heretic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

in that case, i only mentioned google because i'm sure most people don't know what isolating/synthetic languages are.

and yes, if most people used "holocaust" to refer to the armenian genocide, then that's what the word would mean. what is your point?

if you are to dense to see the point in this post i pity you. but allow me to spell it out....

HOLOCAUST DOESN'T BELONG TO ONE SECT OR RELIGION. IT IS A GENERALIZED WORD REFERRING TO MASS LOSS OF LIFE WHICH IS TOTALLY APPROPRIATE ON A PvP SERVER.

Is this clear enough?

[Odonk]

hence the reason The Armenian Holocaust also shows up (Regardless of how far down the line) when you do a general search on holocaust in your "all knowing, all answering" google.

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by pickled_heretic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

in both of those cases, i would still not need to know "what holocaust." that's the great thing about context in language.

And in either case - both of these events are still inappropriate for a guild name. this doesn't really strengthen your case, it makes it weaker, and it makes you look foolish. i know you're smarter than that.

Then you agree based on context that a guild in Everquest ( a fantasy world ) would not refer to any holocaust so long as the guild name was < Holocaust > ( a generic term ).

As when playing on a MMORPG (note RPG stands for Role Playing Game) where there are not any Jews, Native Americans, or Muslims (or any other real world race/group has undergone a holocaust) then the word is without real world context and should be allowed ( as it has been ).

It certainly did not hurt my "case"

General word used in the #1 most commonly accepted use is allowed. Sorry, try again.