OCCUPY WALLSTREET!

[Truth]

get made mad

[Daldolma]

I've got a good feeling about this whole movement. I think some significant gains will be made.

Note: this is sarcasm. There's 0% chance the Occupy movement leads to any tangible government reform in the US.

[Truth]

let's have a political discussion

[Hasbinbad]

http://takebackroc.rocus.org/node/67

Hahahahahahaha.

Not quite "tangible policy reform," but wars can definitely be won in terms of an amalgamation of small victories.

It is just beginning.

[Aadill]

and Freddie Mac announcing that they were banning their notorious law firm, Steven J. Baum (the law firm for the Steidel foreclosure and eviction), from handling their cases.

http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2011/11/...to-close-down/

heh.

[Aadill]

PS although government reform may not take place, the pulpit.. the fucking grandstand, soapbox, megaphone, whatever-you-have, is now ON 24/7. The shitty maneuvers of corporate giants and government intervention alike are being called out via mass media that the mainstream media won't or won't dare to report on.

[Hasbinbad]

Aadill, please do something about this:
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2011/11...-indefinitely/

[Hasbinbad]

Join the ACLU petition to stop this:
https://secure.aclu.org/site/Advocac...subsrc=fixNDAA

[Aadill]

Actually research is numero uno, always: ‎


http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c112:S.1867:

specifically http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/...aooX7:e464889:


(b) Covered Persons- A covered person under this section is any person as follows:

(1) A person who planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, or harbored those responsible for those attacks.

(2) A person who was a part of or substantially supported al-Qaeda, the Taliban, or associated forces that are engaged in hostilities against the United States or its coalition partners, including any person who has committed a belligerent act or has directly supported such hostilities in aid of such enemy forces.

‎(2) COVERED PERSONS- The requirement in paragraph (1) shall apply to any person whose detention is authorized under section 1031 who is determined--
(A) to be a member of, or part of, al-Qaeda or an associated force that acts in coordination with or pursuant to the direction of al-Qaeda; and
(B) to have participated in the course of planning or carrying out an attack or attempted attack against the United States or its coalition partners.


I can't actually find section 1031 BUT:

1032 (b) 1 & 2:

(b) Applicability to United States Citizens and Lawful Resident Aliens-
(1) UNITED STATES CITIZENS- The requirement to detain a person in military custody under this section does not extend to citizens of the United States.
(2) LAWFUL RESIDENT ALIENS- The requirement to detain a person in military custody under this section does not extend to a lawful resident alien of the United States on the basis of conduct taking place within the United States, except to the extent permitted by the Constitution of the United States.

[Truth]

seems pretty vague to me