Remember how people referred to VZTZ as "caster's paradise"?

[Lasher]

Casters raped in 1v1-3v3, bigger battles was decided by melee even in classic. 2.0 fisnbait was mostly casters that had success at first but lost in the long run. Remember FB failing on vox 3 times uncontested because they had no bashers

[Darwoth]

Originally Posted by Nuk3Afr1ca [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm not going into the damage of the spells that do land, but 99% of the people on this forum remember the full resist rate increasing exponentially with higher resists and not being a static 5%.

That's what was mentioned on the Graffe wizard post from 2000 that I dug up too about PvP on TZ also.

I'm not on a crusade to nerf caster damage, I think CC spells are 10x worse no matter what their damage is. It's just that these factors all add together to make a giant flop.

cc spells from what i can tell are not that far off from classic at this juncture from the last patch, instead of 100 mr shitcanning almost everything it just needs 120 - 130, you could snare people at 120ish mr on classic eq also, just took a shitload of tries and as such nobody bothered. i think the tactics of gimps spamming snares and so on here is more of an evolution of zerg tactics than the resist system itself as you still resist the majority albeit less than classic, main difference is back in the day people did not run around 6 deep lameing everyone with a pair of dedicated snare spammers, as such nobody ever got snared.

as for damage i remember lots of full resists to, i am just able to differentiate between the different spells. druid, mage, shaman and wizard nukes simply did not red out beyond the default. all mr nukes did, all dual effect nukes did (all or nothing), all cc did (all or nothing), all dots that were not unresistable (all or nothing) the handful of people disputing my recollection are generally the biggest idiots on these boards that i would not trust if they told me water was wet, the others are simply mistaken and dont know what their talking about. particularly those that chime in with "yeah man, my rogue totally resisted shit all the time bro" ie someone that does not know their ass from a hole in the ground in terms of what spells did what.

anyhow prior to the last patch stuns were retarded, seems that has been addressed and brought in line with root/snare now so what everybody was asking for was done and yet the lamentations continue. go figure.

[Mrcurtloco]

melee was the best ive ever seen on a emu that was geard for "classic pvp"

hit box: huge

miss rate: didnt happen

bash/kick stun always hit

to say "casters paradise" was vztz isnt even close

[Nuk3Afr1ca]

Originally Posted by Mrcurtloco [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

melee was the best ive ever seen on a emu that was geard for "classic pvp"

hit box: huge

miss rate: didnt happen

bash/kick stun always hit

to say "casters paradise" was vztz isnt even close

You do realize you're listing things you say made melee "not bad" as things that won't even be on this server? lol

Caster damage is also higher than VZTZ and the same CC spam is still there.

[Mrcurtloco]

Originally Posted by Nuk3Afr1ca [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You do realize you're listing things you say made melee "not bad" as things that won't even be on this server? lol

Caster damage is also higher than VZTZ and the same CC spam is still there.

well my cc testing hasnt been good at all and this is at lvl 13 druid agaisnt less than 40 mr

I hear partials are better, but I havnt seen it yet

my point was vztz was "casters paradise"..........not even close broham

[Booglie]

did you even play on vztz?
you do realise that for most of 1.0 box there were more monks or warriors logged in at any given time than all the int casters put together? and it was only close because of all the boxed enchanters...
it was such a caster's paradise that there were give or take a half dozen players who actually played an int caster as their main toon...

[Lovely]

Nukeafrica why are you even posting? Last patch is in you're suppose to quit now.

Also big thanks for mentioning Wizards a class not even close to be considered top tier and my name. I must have left a big impression with my amazing skillz that killz

[Nuk3Afr1ca]

Originally Posted by Booglie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you do realise that for most of 1.0 box there were more monks or warriors logged in at any given time

Dude, don't even tell me some retarded stories about box 1.0. That's when Daxum ran the server and put in all this custom garbage like warriors doing crippling blows for 1000 damage with 30dmg 2handers plus giving them vastly increased crit rate. Monks flying kicked for what? 300+ damage?

Just because Daxum was high on drugs and made a bunch of illogical changes for a small period of time and all the kiddies flocked to those classes, means absolutely nothing in the big picture.

The Heresy vs Fish Bait time period, pre-kunark, is really the only thing valid in comparing VZTZ to this server. None of that Daxum stuff was in game then.

Your post was one of the most misleading posts of all time in relation to class balance.

[Silikten]

Originally Posted by Booglie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

did you even play on vztz?
you do realise that for most of 1.0 box there were more monks or warriors logged in at any given time than all the int casters put together? and it was only close because of all the boxed enchanters...
it was such a caster's paradise that there were give or take a half dozen players who actually played an int caster as their main toon...

Friedchicken and Booglie for life <3 cdok 4tw

[Lovely]

After the reading the comments here the thread should be changed to Remember how people referred to VZTZ as "Melee's paradise"?