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[Rogean]

If you do anything more than helpdesk get used to being on salary and pulling long hours whenever needed for free without compensation (which can be more or less depending on your job and how much of an ass your manager(s) are)

[TheBlackSheep]

Originally Posted by Rogean [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you do anything more than helpdesk get used to being on salary and pulling long hours whenever needed for free without compensation (which can be more or less depending on your job and how much of an ass your manager(s) are)

This. IT people above help desk level are generally well raped in regards to long hours and compensation. I get paid for 80 hours every pay period, but I average 100-130.

Short of the perks, that is one of the main things I miss about the public sector. Actual overtime pay. I was given a choice between overtime and comp time. Being on call basically 24/7, I milked it every chance I got and made quite a bit of money over the 10 years. Not to mention, it was nothing for me to roll up 300+ hours in vacation and comp time and then take off for a month straight and hit the sea for extended periods of time, in effect making MORE money, while getting paid at home. Good stuff.

Since being in the private sector, I'm looking at a maximum of 3 weeks of vacation (after 5 years). No comp time and no overtime. Bleh.

Azorath

[Feachie]

Originally Posted by TheBlackSheep [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Quote you out of context? You stated that Cisco produces Linksys, in effect making the implication they were of the same caliber. At least that is what I took from it. Cisco produces Linksys about as much as HP produces Compaq.

Anyway, no - it isn't that ironic, since most people who are involved with Cisco enterprise products on a professional basis know that Cisco is still Cisco and Linksys is still Linksys. Big difference. Just because it may say "Linksys by Cisco" on the box and have the Golden Gate Bridge logo on it, doesn't really matter.

Azorath

you're obviously not intelligent enough to get my analogy, or you're just too ignorant. i'll elaborate for you; the toyota motor corporation owns many smaller brands. tmc obviously owns toyota, but they also own lexus (as well as hino, daihatsu, etc). toyota is still toyota, lexus is still lexus. as in the profits that they make, they keep.

anyway, are you saying that these vehicles are produced with equal care, quality, and workmanship? i would think it's plain to see which of their products is the higher end product meant for the more discerning customer. much like cisco products, amirite?

as for irony, i would call it pretty ironic for a lexus driver to say he would never drive a toyota. sorry.

[TheBlackSheep]

Originally Posted by Feachie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you're obviously not intelligent enough to get my analogy, or you're just too ignorant. i'll elaborate for you; the toyota motor corporation owns many smaller brands. tmc obviously owns toyota, but they also own lexus (as well as hino, daihatsu, etc). toyota is still toyota, lexus is still lexus. as in the profits that they make, they keep.

anyway, are you saying that these vehicles are produced with equal care, quality, and workmanship? i would think it's plain to see which of their products is the higher end product meant for the more discerning customer. much like cisco products, amirite?

as for irony, i would call it pretty ironic for a lexus driver to say he would never drive a toyota. sorry.

No need to act like a bitch. I'm intelligent enough to understand your analogy. Perhaps you don't understand what a subsidiary is. I shall use two other examples, one I have already mentioned.

HP. Compaq. Both different companies with different engineering and manufacturing processes. HP buys Compaq. HP is still HP and Compaq is still Compaq. The only similarity is on paper.

Chrysler. Jeep (AMC). Both different companies with different engineering and manufacturing processes. Chrysler buys AMC. Chrysler is still Chrysler and Jeep is still Jeep. The only similarity is on paper.

Cisco. Linksys. Both different companies with different engineering and manufacturing processes. Cisco produces enterprise class hardware. Linksys produces consumer based networking hardware. Cisco is superb. Linksys sucks. Cisco buys Linksys. Cisco is still the top of the line. Linksys still sucks. The only similarity is on paper.

Again, the reason why I don't find your comment ironic is because of the context in which it was used. Anyone who has ever been remotely involved with Cisco and Linksys on a professional level knows that "Linksys by Cisco" is still the same shitty Linksys it has always been, regardless of the fact that Cisco is it's parent company.

So your comment "you do know Linksys is produced by Cisco right?" is not exactly accurate because they are still two different companies with two different engineering and manufacturing processes. The only similarity between the two is that Cisco Systems Inc. owns them both.

Azorath

[Feachie]

*sigh* you honestly don't think sharing of technology or engineers doesn't happen? i've already said that no, they don't get built in the same plant, but you're too ignorant to realize that IP sharing does happen. i'm not saying that by cisco acquiring linksys means they're top notch hardware, because they aren't.

i'm not arguing this with you any further.

[TheBlackSheep]

Originally Posted by Feachie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

*sigh* you honestly don't think sharing of technology or engineers doesn't happen? i've already said that no, they don't get built in the same plant, but you're too ignorant to realize that IP sharing does happen. i'm not saying that by cisco acquiring linksys means they're top notch hardware, because they aren't.

i'm not arguing this with you any further.

Oh, they most definitely share technology, Feach. But it is a bit more complicated than that. It depends on the subsidiary and the parent specifically.

Cisco and Linksys are apples and oranges, you know that. Consumers aren't going to put Fortigates, Catalyst switches and UCS blades in their homes. Fortune 500 companies aren't going to put 5 port switches and DSL modem/router combos in their data centers. So even though I'm sure Cisco and Linksys engineers have had quite a few sit downs, the sharing of technology and engineers probably isn't as far-reaching as one would think because of the difference in the class of products and the requirements of the technology inside them.

Azorath

[xshayla701]

Originally Posted by Feachie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

am i supposed to talk about makeup and boys with the rest of the girls on the forum? one of them has no clue what hygiene or body maintenance is, the other one is a floozie.

i dont talk about makeup n boys, you forgot about me feach [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] unless i'm the floozie??? in which case, carry on

[purest]

Originally Posted by TheBlackSheep

...so they simply go back to school for some other "degree" like game design or graphics design, knowing they can always just default on their loans if they still don't have the job they want in 10 years. Don't get me started on that bullshit.

student loans are non-defaultable, breh, so save the self-righteous finger wagging for when you actually wtf yer talkin' about

[TheBlackSheep]

Originally Posted by purest [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

student loans are non-defaultable, breh, so save the self-righteous finger wagging for when you actually wtf yer talkin' about

Student Loans are defaultable. They just can't be discharged through bankruptcy. Pro-Tip: Next time spend 15 seconds and do a little research before hitting "Submit Reply". It could very easily mean the difference between a being a smart ass or looking like a dumb ass.

Azorath

[Kabilos]

Originally Posted by TheBlackSheep [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not to mention, any IT guy worth a damn wouldn't own a Linksys.

Azorath

What if you owned it only so you could flash the firmware to put whatever you wanted to on it [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]