WTB anti-pk, anti-grief raid guild

[Softcore PK]

Originally Posted by Lazortag [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

hey Softcore, I'm also totally against griefing and all that. I'm going to roll the dice and see how Abacab's guild turns out when the server goes live, maybe I'll be a positive influence (though I doubt I'll even get that much playtime). Abacab only trains people when he's off his meds, if you talk to him while he's calm you'll find he's genuinely opposed to griefing, so who knows, maybe grindcore will be what we're looking for.

I hope you're right, but I won't be rolling any dice on him. He's already trained people in beta and joked about it :/

[Lazortag]

Originally Posted by Softcore PK [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I hope you're right, but I won't be rolling any dice on him. He's already trained people in beta and joked about it :/

Look at it this way - no matter what, on any pvp server, you'll have to be guilded with people you don't like. I'm not fond of abacab's reputation of training, using showeq, throwing temper tantrums over nothing, etc., but grindcore is going to be the closest thing we have to an anti-PK guild with the server's population the way it is right now, so I'd rather gamble on that than go solo.

[Softcore PK]

Originally Posted by Lazortag [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Look at it this way - no matter what, on any pvp server, you'll have to be guilded with people you don't like. I'm not fond of abacab's reputation of training, using showeq, throwing temper tantrums over nothing, etc., but grindcore is going to be the closest thing we have to an anti-PK guild with the server's population the way it is right now, so I'd rather gamble on that than go solo.

It seems to me that there is enough interest in this sort of guild for something better than Grindcore to work. And with this dream guild being anti, I can see it recruiting a good amount of new players (particularly former blues) by being helpful and friendly. I dunno if I'm right, but it seems to me that the only reason Abacab is going the anti route is for this reason. Taking his history into consideration, do you really think there is not going to be any GM drama in Grindcore's future?

It's one thing to be guilded with griefers, but quite another to be led by them.

[God-King Abacab]

Originally Posted by Softcore PK [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I hope you're right, but I won't be rolling any dice on him. He's already trained people in beta and joked about it :/

I taunted a pet...

That's hardly me gathering up over 100+ mobs and flopping on someone, if you think me running down Guk with a pet attacking me using mobs as a combative advantage is training and absolutely vile... Then you have no idea about my history when I was actively warring with IB and DA.

[Softcore PK]

Originally Posted by God-King Abacab [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I taunted a pet...

That's hardly me gathering up over 100+ mobs and flopping on someone, if you think me running down Guk with a pet attacking me using mobs as a combative advantage is training and absolutely vile... Then you have no idea about my history when I was actively warring with IB and DA.

I'm certainly aware of much of your history. Red99 is your chance to redeem yourself somewhat, and with Grindcore being against grief I assumed you have planned on taking it. For you to say something like this, though, does not make me any less concerned.

"Sure, I intentionally taunted a pet and ran it through upper guk, which did cause a massive train and probably resulted in several pve deaths. But it's not really a train, right? It was the enchanter's fault for letting me train. And besides, compared to what I used to do this is child's play."

I don't mean to be as abrasive as I probably sound, and I do hope that you have managed to put your past behind you. Just, for me? This is a pretty clear indication that you are not what I would be looking for in a guild. Maybe as things progress you'll be able to prove me wrong. On paper, your guild claims to be everything I want, and I am determined to do many of the raids I missed out on during live. We'll see, though [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]