Trio Suggestions

[TheDudeAbides]

Originally Posted by Rophel [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're missing the point again. The warrior can effectively tank while doing relatively alright DPS (depending on gear). The cleric can keep him up so that he can continue to chain pull mobs. Enchanter provides the DPS with charm, some blasts, can handle adds, pumps mana to cleric through Clarity. It's simply the best trio in the game and is very damage effective, and if it's not it's because the enchanter is doing something wrong.

You don't need a warrior to tank when the charmed pet is a vastly superior tank and does 10 times the DPS with haste a warrior could ever hope to do

Yes that includes raid encounters

[Bayleo]

for kunark, nothing is going to beat monk/sham/necro. not even close. also sham/monk can duo, as can sham/necro.

[Alawen Everywhere]

I should start by saying that my permanent groups always involved a warrior and a cleric. One that went far was a foursome of warrior/cleric/shaman/monk. We did not travel or level particularly quickly, but we were extremely rugged and could pick up two strangers of most any class and do well.

I was in a leveling group on Stromm that was warrior/cleric/enchanter/mage/rogue. Our usual sixth was a monk but he didn't play a very large role. This group was much faster but less durable.

I knew two extremely successful four-boxers. One played warrior/cleric/enchanter/rogue and the other played warrior/cleric/enchanter/wizard.

What I infer from these data points is that the warrior/cleric/slower trio needs at least one pure dps buddy always available. To be successful as a trio, abilities need to be more condensed. I know two ways to accomplish this successfully.

The first approach retains the tank/healer/slower approach in two characters, shadowknight and shaman. The knight also serves as effective puller. The third member should be pure dps. Rogue is probably best with the shaman buffs, but int casters or rangers for utility are interesting alternatives.

The other approach I've seen work effectively is to desert the tank paradigm in favor of a pet and go with pure casters. The best setup I've seen is cleric/enchanter/magician and it was very impressive.

I'm not much for theorycrafting, so these examples are all from real combos I've seen work and not work. My own three characters on live were warrior, cleric and druid. I had crazy mana regen and lots of clicks and procs to make it work, but my dps was awful and aggro was always touchy until I had very high end aggro weapons. On the other hand, I could port all over quickly after a server reset, the druid worked well for pulling outdoor zones and I could succor when things went bad.

I think the choice of a trio comes down to utility versus efficiency, but interestingly I don't think utility necessarily increases overall capability. The cleric/chanter/mage trio also works well starting with no gear at all while the shadowknight/shaman/rogue trio scale nicely with Kunark and Velious gear.

I enjoyed seeing everyone's ideas in this thread.

[Hasbinbad]

Originally Posted by Alawen Everywhere [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Really smart stuff.

I like both of your picks actually, especially shd/shm/rog mostly after kunark drops, but I think you glaze over the dps output of enchanters on p99 specifically and don't give credit (partially coz I didn't really say it - but I figured those that know, know) to the idea that the warrior is mostly there to pull, initiate rooms, and cover mistakes. Mage pets can't do that kind of stuff as well as a person who's only job it is to do so.

[Auvdar]

cmon kids, war + cleric + enchanter is the triforce. We all know this.

[Malavan]

while we're all bored, i'd like to see some more opinions on this. Right now i'm trying to get a 3rd friend to come play. We all played when the game came out and have since played everything under the sun. That said, we're looking for a good trio and had considered doing the war/cleric/enc thing, though after reading this, we may try something a little different.

I can't remember how well a shaman could heal pre-kunark, but that'd be fun to pair with a SK/bard duo

[karsten]

applebees appetizer menu

[Drubu]

yeah honestly tank + cleric + chanter would be your best bet longterm. then you can just grab the million dps that are always LFG. No porter would suck though but there are a million druids around just befriend one/two.

[rioisk]

Don't do warrior, do SK for pulling (FD).

SK, Cleric, Enchanter.

[Malrubius]

Originally Posted by bmay1011 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Can anyone offer suggestions on some good 3-man group setups?

No, but I've seen some damn nice 3-woman group setups. badaboom!

Sorry, just the way you asked the question [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]