Discussion: PvP Deaths (Item/Coin/XP Loot/Gain)

[Nirgon]

Months down the road when there are twinks rolling zones, people will log in, get griefed without the chance/excitement of bringing said griefer down for a big loot and quit. Personally, if I played, I'd hump it through the pain and either out level or eventually out gear the person. Most people won't.

A character in full droppable resist gear + planar is insanely powerful compared to one in just planar (or otherwise) drops. He who gets on top may stay on top and discourage new-comers to the raid scene completely given time.

The magic resist gained from buffs / no drop pieces is plenty fine to shrug off roots/stuns (but not mezzes...) and the extra resist should be a risked luxury. Players should have to risk powerful resist gear, end of story.

[pickled_heretic]

coin loot, absolutely?

exp loss, no.

item loss, yes, but perhaps with custom rules, e.g. it's only possible to lose 1 item at random and the player can't pick, don't lose an item every time you die, etc. i made a post about it earlier that was kind of ignored but w/e.

exp gain? i think this would be pretty sick, diminishing returns on killing the same player obviously. if exp loss is in i think exp gain should also be in.

[Nirgon]

Perhaps a customized classic experience

[Haul]

item loot plz

[Daldaen]

Bag loot IMO. People are primarily bitching about losing an item they camped for a long time due to one death and it leads to griefing. In that case, do a bag loot system. You can only loot the bags on players corpses so if they are exping in a camp and won something that they bagged you get to guess which one has the uber lootz!

[cured]

No exp loss. Unless the GMs have a short memory, they know how much BS was pulled in the planes by a bunch of guilds. Does nobody think there aren't going to be a few lame asses corpse camping people to the point a player just doesn't lose time but now they have to worry about losing a lot of exp? It's unnecessary.

[mrgoochio]

Been silently reading about red99 for a while.. decided to put in my own .02. While my idea of PvP clearly not the ideal standard most people want, I'd like item loot implemented. I think 1 item loot would be a fair compromise, or possibly even a lotto system that would determine 0 - 'X' number of items able to be looted. I'd go as far as to say that bagging should be disabled or on a timer that could be interrupted to prevent the game from becoming who can click items off fastest. There have been a few posts (yeah, an understatement) about the pro's and con's of the different PvP death systems and I'm sure the devs have read nearly all of them. I won't go into detail about it since it has most likely been covered, but I wanted to put in another vote for some type of item loot. In any case, devs have done a great job with p99 blue live and red in terms of taking community ideas under consideration. I will be trying red99 regardless of the system, hopefully it will be something I can stay for.

[dusk883]

would be interesting to see a random item being given to winner of pvp - no melee weapons of course

[cured]

How about one item loot per kill until level 30? That way it'd be open season on twinks but people who save all their cash for a nice item (SMR, FBSS) who get jacked after a fight at low health won't have to suffer as much. Plus some players will get to the planes and will never have to bag their no drop loot so it'd help even the playing field. If neither guy can be looted, they'll fight each other head on.

Item loot is way to dangerous a thing for loot whores and lame asses to exploit.

[Nirgon]

How about 4 levels and item loot like I done said.