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Old 04-08-2010, 12:02 PM
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We need to open that thing up and get the mana stones out!
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Old 04-08-2010, 01:24 PM
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Is there any way we could go through the pain in the ass of getting a beefy firewall up in front of that server and only allow static IPs through? Would make for an administration nightmare... But... Tie all accounts to an IP? Completely unrealistic, but sounds good in theory [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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Old 04-08-2010, 01:31 PM
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Is there any way we could go through the pain in the ass of getting a beefy firewall up in front of that server and only allow static IPs through? Would make for an administration nightmare... But... Tie all accounts to an IP? Completely unrealistic, but sounds good in theory [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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As someone who doesn't know all that much about running a server, that sounds like a pretty good solution. Couldn't you make it a requirement for registering an account to input your IP in one of the registration boxes, thus automatically tying it to your account? Or would that require a total revamp of the system / login server?
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Old 04-08-2010, 01:37 PM
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I think you had the devs at "pain in the ass" they have enough of that and sounds like they have a plan, just need donations to roll in to cover the costs of what will no doubt come from pocket partially excluding what's already been donated.

Don't know if thats how it is but I'm 90% sure. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 04-08-2010, 01:39 PM
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As someone who doesn't know all that much about running a server, that sounds like a pretty good solution. Couldn't you make it a requirement for registering an account to input your IP in one of the registration boxes, thus automatically tying it to your account? Or would that require a total revamp of the system / login server?

The problem is that a DDoS doesn't have to log in. Imagine a server as a house. That house has a driveway. At the street end of that driveway there is a gate. You want to have a party at your house, but the paparazzi heard about it. Only people you have invited can get in, but the photographers are surrounding the place. Your guests can't get to the gate to show their invitation.

A DDoS attack are the paparazzi. They aren't invited, and they can't get IN.. The gate is a firewall. It stops them from getting even onto the driveway.. But the people you WANT at your party - I.E., the people who just want to play EQ - can't get to the gate. The DDoS takes up all the street in front of the house.
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Old 04-08-2010, 04:15 PM
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The problem is that a DDoS doesn't have to log in. Imagine a server as a house. That house has a driveway. At the street end of that driveway there is a gate. You want to have a party at your house, but the paparazzi heard about it. Only people you have invited can get in, but the photographers are surrounding the place. Your guests can't get to the gate to show their invitation.

A DDoS attack are the paparazzi. They aren't invited, and they can't get IN.. The gate is a firewall. It stops them from getting even onto the driveway.. But the people you WANT at your party - I.E., the people who just want to play EQ - can't get to the gate. The DDoS takes up all the street in front of the house.
That was frakking amazing... Seriously.
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Old 04-08-2010, 04:23 PM
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that's a big twinkie
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Old 04-08-2010, 04:27 PM
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Nice analogy!

As far as Dell goes, I don't know anything about their home machines I have bought one dell home PC ever, for my lil sister when she was in college. As far as business class laptops, workstations, servers go... I would never buy anything but Dell ever. I work for a tiny ass company and the people who handle the money frequently just buy new employees whatever the fuck laptop they want or they think looks cool... So we have a ton of Lenovo and Sony Vaio notebooks all over the fucking place that I would smash with a hammer and toss in a fire in a heartbeat. Not because dell laptops out perform them or are more reliable, but because Dell support fucking kicks ass. The only support I have ever used that was better was from Sun and sun Gold support is not exactly cheap lol.
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Old 04-08-2010, 04:30 PM
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The problem is that a DDoS doesn't have to log in. Imagine a server as a house. That house has a driveway. At the street end of that driveway there is a gate. You want to have a party at your house, but the paparazzi heard about it. Only people you have invited can get in, but the photographers are surrounding the place. Your guests can't get to the gate to show their invitation.

A DDoS attack are the paparazzi. They aren't invited, and they can't get IN.. The gate is a firewall. It stops them from getting even onto the driveway.. But the people you WANT at your party - I.E., the people who just want to play EQ - can't get to the gate. The DDoS takes up all the street in front of the house.
Thank you - I understand now, and the need for the bigger pipe (wider gate) that Rogean mentioned and everything.
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Old 04-08-2010, 04:48 PM
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The problem is that a DDoS doesn't have to log in. Imagine a server as a house. That house has a driveway. At the street end of that driveway there is a gate. You want to have a party at your house, but the paparazzi heard about it. Only people you have invited can get in, but the photographers are surrounding the place. Your guests can't get to the gate to show their invitation.

A DDoS attack are the paparazzi. They aren't invited, and they can't get IN.. The gate is a firewall. It stops them from getting even onto the driveway.. But the people you WANT at your party - I.E., the people who just want to play EQ - can't get to the gate. The DDoS takes up all the street in front of the house.
And to boot, the entire police force (i.e. the service provider) is solely in the market of making money and doesn't really give a shit if you want the paparazzi there or not-- they're going to say it's your problem and fine you unless they leave. The only way they'll do anything about it is if it's in their interest or the interest of the powers which support them.

OH SHIT! I'VE BLURRED REALITY AND ANALOGY AND NOW I'M GOING TO HAVE AN ANEURYSM!
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