Discussion: PvP Deaths (Item/Coin/XP Loot/Gain)

[Bockscar]

It's far better to have naked casters fighting each other than it is to have twinked out melee rolling over any caster b/c of ridiculous equipment for their level.

What? Having the PvP environment completely dominated by naked casters is far better than the sheer possibility of making twinks? Do you actually have the slightest idea what you're talking about?

And stop pretending like the server will be ruled by level 20 supertwinks after a month. There is nothing whatsoever to suggest that this will be the case and plenty of history that indicates it shouldn't. When were twinks ever even a real problem? They only exist in the level bracket that you pass by the fastest anyway, and it isn't even possible to make a significant twink before well into Kunark when people can actually deck out alts in fungis and tstaffs. Much of the gear people PvP in before Kunark can be camped at level 30.

[Galacticus]

Originally Posted by Bockscar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What? Having the PvP environment completely dominated by naked casters is far better than the sheer possibility of making twinks? Do you actually have the slightest idea what you're talking about?

And stop pretending like the server will be ruled by level 20 supertwinks after a month. There is nothing whatsoever to suggest that this will be the case and plenty of history that indicates it shouldn't. When were twinks ever even a real problem? They only exist in the level bracket that you pass by the fastest anyway, and it isn't even possible to make a significant twink before well into Kunark when people can actually deck out alts in fungis and tstaffs. Much of the gear people PvP in before Kunark can be camped at level 30.

This.

[Zuranthium]

Originally Posted by Bockscar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What? Having the PvP environment completely dominated by naked casters is far better than the sheer possibility of making twinks?

Except it won't be dominated by naked casters because in the end game melee are very strong.

The point of PvP is fighting other players. It should be possible to never have to do a single PvE camp ever on this server (or at least very few) and instead gain your levels and equipment by killing other players.

Originally Posted by Bockscar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And stop pretending like the server will be ruled by level 20 supertwinks after a month. There is nothing whatsoever to suggest that this will be the case and plenty of history that indicates it shouldn't. When were twinks ever even a real problem? They only exist in the level bracket that you pass by the fastest anyway, and it isn't even possible to make a significant twink before well into Kunark when people can actually deck out alts in fungis and tstaffs. Much of the gear people PvP in before Kunark can be camped at level 30.

Don't use the excuse of twinks not being a problem because they only exist in the levels that you go by in fastest. The whole journey is important, especially for new players to the server or casual players. People can twink out alts and keep those alts at a certain level just so they can easily kill other players in that level range.

You also act as if the people who grind to the highest levels first and get the best gear first will let other people have those camps. They will frequently exert a lot of effort in preventing others from even attempting to camp the hotspots. Item loot provides more of an equalizer for skill, so that it's less about getting decked out and more about using tactics and intuition.

[Not_Kazowi]

Originally Posted by Zuranthium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The point of PvP is fighting other players. It should be possible to never have to do a single PvE camp ever on this server (or at least very few) and instead gain your levels and equipment by killing other players.

Haha you have clearly NO idea what you are talking about, please stop.