Bring target rings back.

[Spoodowg2000bc]

Originally Posted by Malrubius [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Translation: P99 staff has created classic EQ for the majority of players. But I am not in that majority, so I will complain about how it should be changed to MY classic implementation, so that the majority should be forced into MY subjective opinion of what classic was.

You're bringing this back to the picking-and-choosing classic thing. Rings could have been removed sooner if they wanted it that way. They chose to leave them in until they chose to remove it. This server is the DEVS subjective opinion of classic was.

My argument is don't leave something that isn't classic in and then take it away at a whim, when people have come to expect it and others could have used it as a crutch for much longer. We can argue about how much it really helps anyone all we want, but that is just as subjective as the discussion of how much the MQ and MySEQ users benefited from that shit.

I'll probably be fine without target rings. I dunno though because I can't get a group as an untwinked melee during raid hours (responsible adult playing time).

[Runningfish]

Originally Posted by Spoodowg2000bc [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're bringing this back to the picking-and-choosing classic thing. Rings could have been removed sooner if they wanted it that way. They chose to leave them in until they chose to remove it. This server is the DEVS subjective opinion of classic was.

My argument is don't leave something that isn't classic in and then take it away at a whim, when people have come to expect it and others could have used it as a crutch for much longer. We can argue about how much it really helps anyone all we want, but that is just as subjective as the discussion of how much the MQ and MySEQ users benefited from that shit.

I'll probably be fine without target rings. I dunno though because I can't get a group as an untwinked melee during raid hours (responsible adult playing time).

You obviously don't understand why this was removed now. Nilbog/the dev's have been wanting to remove maps, rings, and spell sets for a long time. However until a recent improvement it was impossible. Now they can control the client side more, so once they got that control they did what they had been wanting to do for a while. It wasn't like this entire time they could just remove these any time they wanted. A tool had to be developed for them to do this.

Originally Posted by jdx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Which as I said, respectfully sir, is your subjective opinion.

As I doubt there is any actual evidence to back his post up it is an opinion. However I think most people will agree that this is an accurate opinion. The vast majority of people playing from OG-velious were not boxing. I honestly can't think of a single person I ran into in game during that time that was. Post Velious however I knew quite a few people that did. It sucks that your view of classic includes boxing and you don't get your version of classic but the vast majority of us weren't boxing and don't want to have boxing on this server.

[karsten]

please bring target rings back

[nilbog]

Originally Posted by Runningfish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nilbog/the dev's have been wanting to remove maps, rings, and spell sets for a long time. However until a recent improvement it was impossible. Now they can control the client side more, so once they got that control they did what they had been wanting to do for a while. It wasn't like this entire time they could just remove these any time they wanted. A tool had to be developed for them to do this.

Correct. Brown skeletons/gypsies models were the first fixes provided by the advent of dll client fixes.

This patch, there were more.

Next patch, there will probably be more than that.

[Jigga]

hints at what else can be more Nilby?

[nilbog]

Originally Posted by Jigga [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

hints at what else can be more Nilby?

http://www.project1999.org/forums/sh...6&postcount=55

If you guys know more, post them up. We'll fix if we can.

[Atmas]

I remember as a wizard on live playing PvP I hated these rings ferociously.


As a guy playing on a PvE server atm and often doing trades in EC I miss them.

[miethos]

I remember when they went live, first thing I tried to do was figure out how the hell to turn them off. Don't need no stinkin rings around stuff.

[Malrubius]

Originally Posted by nilbog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

http://www.project1999.org/forums/sh...6&postcount=55

If you guys know more, post them up. We'll fix if we can.

Not sure if it's possible or not, and I know I'll be flamed for it, but I'd love it if casters had to stare at their spellbooks until level 35 again.

That might have gone away pre-Velious anyway though, in which case it wouldn't be worth it.

Keep up the good fight. It looks like we're evolving closer to 100% classic with every patch.

[nilbog]

Originally Posted by Malrubius [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not sure if it's possible or not, and I know I'll be flamed for it, but I'd love it if casters had to stare at their spellbooks until level 35 again.

That might have gone away pre-Velious anyway though, in which case it wouldn't be worth it.

Keep up the good fight. It looks like we're evolving closer to 100% classic with every patch.

Book meditation wasn't removed until 2002.

http://www.project1999.org/forums/sh...0&postcount=36