almost 80 people in fear

[Arkanjil]

Originally Posted by Trimm [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How dare you bring logic and reason to this, sir.

This man is legend.

Other than that.....good discussions! It's refreshing to see people giving their positive opinions on this subject.

[karsten]

i'm the raid leader of IB, so I can certainly make us abide by a calendar system/raid target rotation, not a problem

[Humerox]

Originally Posted by Murferoo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Who gives a shit if they agree or not? If the GM's bone up and say this is the way it is....that's the way it is. Don't like it, take some pills, slash your wrists, hang yourself and shoot yourself in the mouth to make sure your really dead. Oh, and enjoy your ban.

Well...GM's don't want to have to be involved in server guild politics - not that they aren't already I know - they would much rather guilds get together and settle things like adults. I mean who wants to be up at 3am to settle some fricking argument about who was at this mob or that mob at whatever given second. They got better shit to do, and honestly, most of us want them doing that other better shit.

Every guild on this server has their own agenda. With that being said, kudos to all the guild leaders for recognizing the need to table this shit and compromise. It's not a very popular decision for some of these leaders to be diplomatic...and you'd best believe they have their own internal shitstorms to deal with. They are going to pave the way for the next three years or so for everyone.

Inglourious Basterds, Transcendence, Divinity, Fish Bait and all the other guilds that are hashing this out...thank you. No bullshit...dead serious.

[Murferoo]

Originally Posted by Humerox [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well...GM's don't want to have to be involved in server guild politics - not that they aren't already I know - they would much rather guilds get together and settle things like adults. I mean who wants to be up at 3am to settle some fricking argument about who was at this mob or that mob at whatever given second. They got better shit to do, and honestly, most of us want them doing that other better shit.

Every guild on this server has their own agenda. With that being said, kudos to all the guild leaders for recognizing the need to table this shit and compromise. It's not a very popular decision for some of these leaders to be diplomatic...and you'd best believe they have their own internal shitstorms to deal with. They are going to pave the way for the next three years or so for everyone.

Inglourious Basterds, Transcendence, Divinity, Fish Bait and all the other guilds that are hashing this out...thank you. No bullshit...dead serious.

That's cool, but lets remember, it's not just about them. The server continues to grow. Guilds come and go guys...the ongoing shit being a good reason why some of them, eventually, go...let the guilds, whomever they are, fit around a good system, not the other way around.

[Trimm]

Originally Posted by Murferoo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That's cool, but lets remember, it's not just about them. The server continues to grow. Guilds come and go guys...the ongoing shit being a good reason why some of them, eventually, go...let the guilds, whomever they are, fit around a good system, not the other way around.

Why wouldn't a new guild be allowed into an already established calendar system? When they are ready, they can say we have X amount of people ready to attemp Y mob and they would be given a chance just like any other guild to prove they can handle it. If they fail at killing it, another guild could be waiting behind them and they can try again next time.

[yaaaflow]

ok wtf who hijacked karstens account

[Murferoo]

Originally Posted by Trimm [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why wouldn't a new guild be allowed into an already established calendar system? When they are ready, they can say we have X amount of people ready to attemp Y mob and they would be given a chance just like any other guild to prove they can handle it. If they fail at killing it, another guild could be waiting behind them and they can try again next time.

I'm in total agreement with this. Did I imply otherwise? If I did - my bad.

What I should have said in my previous post is I'd like to see the GM's exert some leadership/direction and not leave it up to 4 guilds to decide how raid rules are going to be determined. I have nothing against any of those guilds I just tend to lean towards reasonable, balanced and cogent thought processes and if what I see on the forums and in game is any indication, it's lacking from some of that crowd....not all, some.

I think at the end of the day you guys will find a raid calendar makes the most sense.

[mitic]

Originally Posted by yaaaflow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

ok wtf who hijacked karstens account

i was thinking the same...

[Humerox]

Originally Posted by Murferoo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

...not leave it up to 4 guilds to decide how raid rules are going to be determined...

Didn't mean to imply only 4 guild representation. There - from what I understand - will be more GL's invited than what I listed. My bad.

[Scrooge]

WTF....still at 14 pages? C'mon people, make it 80! Get to it!