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09-05-2011, 11:07 PM
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A month ago telling one of you that hundreds of people here cheated would've got a tin foil lawl response. Claiming TR or Perun (who seems to be the A-rod or Roger Clemens for this Mitchell report) was cheating would've gotten a tin foil hat response because they were simply just better and more prepared. The fact of the matter they obviously are not the only guild to have members tagged flagged recently. They're just the ones who were screaming they played fair and were simply better then everyone else. they were honest, rule-abiding and everyone was just paranoid and jealous. And then rubbed it into everyone's face when they pulled or got away with whatever they did and ensured no one but them could enjoy this game. I doubt we have uncovered half the truth in this and probably will never know. I imagine as time passes we will see and hear more to prove it wasn't all just tin foil hats. There will always be jealousy and I have no doubt some of that fuels all this anti TR response but how can you be surprised at the response? Were you surprised at how Barry Bonds was treated yet the guy who also used just to make the minor league team was not treated the same?
Call me unreasonable but you can't call me the cheater. You can't call me the one who compromises the integrity of this server. You can't call me the one who posts anonymously and hides. You can't call me the one who backs down from whatever I believe is right and does only what benefits me at the expense of the other 90 percent of the server. The notion that monks don't pull therefore any cheating a monk did didn't affect anything is ignorant at best. The claim that raid leaders no matter the guild that cheat don't have any bearing on their raid's success is bullshit. Believing that this is the iceberg and not the tip of the iceberg is laughable. I personally believe TR would be a powerful raid guild without anyone cheating or pulling anything. But the fact remains they do whatever is necessary and have been rubbing it in peoples faces. I do not believe it is a stretch to think on ways cheating would benefit them because let's face it they've been benefiting and it isn't a reach to say less then scrupulous methods assisted them. How can you not be angered at the revelation that the ones who were stepping on the throats of anyone who dared to go for their raid mobs using whatever methods they could find were doing worse for an unknown period of time? How can you trust or give any benefit of the doubt? But yeah I'm the unreasonable one. At least you can't call me the cheating one.
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09-05-2011, 11:20 PM
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And banditfist whomever you are the point about punishment is an excellent one. If the staff decides this is the punishment for this then the server will have to deal with it. But that doesn't prevent people from seeing what could be injustice and rise up at least vocally. I for one believe you can treat everyone the same to a degree. But there are also varying degrees of wrongness if you will. The guy that doesn't report his boat sale to the IRS and pockets the money is stealing, breaking the law. Do you punish him the same as the guy who commits armed robbery? The guy that isn't paying attention while driving and accidentally hits and kills someone gets punished the same as the person who plans and executes a murder?
You would punish all 365 accounts the same. So some guy that plays 3 hours a week and has a character the max level of 22, 135 platinum in the bank from selling greater lightstones after 4 weeks on the server the same as your lvl 60 raid leader officer (since everyone is stuck on Perun) of the top raid guild who has been a direct part of the constant time sink and mess that the staff has to deal with on this server? The one guy may have used a macro to tradeskill tailoring up to 47. The second? I am saying you have intent, and deliberate actions. You also have an end result, and affect on the community. There is a betrayal at work also. Of course this one person shouldn't be singled out as the only one and therefore TR should only be punished. That is silly. The punishment should fit the crime. The greater the harm and damages the greater the punishment. Teacher catches a kid stealing school supplies from the administration office so he gets the kid suspended. 4 months later the same teacher is found to be stealing supplies as well. What do you do?
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09-06-2011, 12:07 AM
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#286
09-06-2011, 12:15 AM
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whoah, whoah! Big Starklen up on the block.
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09-06-2011, 01:37 AM
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I don't even get the insult. Is this where yo go from 'we don't cheat you wear tin foil hats" to you smell and your clothes look funny?
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09-06-2011, 02:09 AM
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I believe my pic was posted months ago, but I'll bite. Here goes.
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