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Old 08-30-2011, 08:26 PM
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Personally I am fine with pvp exp loss but i wonder if it will just put the less skilled and less organized at an even greater disadvantage. In my experiences the weak die more than the strong

I see it similar to item loot where it will create a bigger gap between the sharks and minnows.

Put in item loot and exp loss imo
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Old 08-30-2011, 08:33 PM
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Exp loss on pvp deaths wow heh, well I guess a guild will come and dominate people hard for the first while, and then people will stop trying to contest them until they either get bored/stop logging in - then there may be a shift in power. Sounds gay.
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Old 08-30-2011, 08:34 PM
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Well I'm gonna give up on EQ if the exp is as slow as p99 - I just don't have the time to level as slow as that and I'm not rolling anything other than Troll SK.
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Old 08-30-2011, 08:38 PM
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That's the point of it, you don't grind it in a day/week. In theory there will be lots of people to fight as you level with the proper population. I can see pro's and con's for both - but if your char will be around for years like p99 then you should shut the fuck up and suck it up kid.
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Old 08-30-2011, 08:42 PM
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Nah I'm not going to be around for years and am just expressing my opinion - take your own advice Amuk.
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Old 08-30-2011, 08:46 PM
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I dunno why people aren't arguing for better exp rates considering this is gonna be a red box with exp loss on pvp death.

Death rates for people are going to be a shit ton higher than on a blue box.
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Old 08-30-2011, 08:51 PM
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Can someone link where Nilbog said for sure it's exp loss on pvp death? I only see speculation but maybe I'm missing the thread?
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Old 08-30-2011, 08:57 PM
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What if the exp loss was around 5%, with a hypothetical population of around 500-750? I imagine the numbers will be very high to begin with, then taper off.


He hasnt said for sure but what he has said makes it seem like its more probable than not
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Old 08-30-2011, 08:59 PM
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I've been dodged so many times over YT, can just imagine the dodging from Exp loss fear.

Maybe I'm just going off about something that's insignificant, 5% will = just under a blue? I mean if you go low it's pointless, if you go higher it's beyond harsh. I can't imagine all the secondary rules that will be required to support this - you'll need to police corpse camping much more so, since killing a naked person is actually rewarding if you hate the fuck. Since noone can plug holy smokes any naked player I see is going to get shit on - getting rage spam is hilarious. Guild binds, can't wait for all the fuckers waiting at those spots to gank naked people till they /q and still get killed a couple more times before disapearing.

Why would you make more tools to grief the shitty weak players I really don't get this.

Mass edits omg, at 45 my ogre war on p99 it took me 11 hours to get through 45 at royals, that's roughly 2 hours 10 mins per yellow, just around 25 mins of lost grinding time(with the best exp camp and a well rounded grp we cleared noble/royals/window/solatunnel) per pvp death at 45, I'm sure non hell levels won't be as bad but I can just imagine the ragequits about to go down.
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Old 08-30-2011, 09:14 PM
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Gotta say after reading this thread more and seeing Lashers point i resent my view on exp death for pvp. It's gonna be like Lasher said which isn't a good thing for the server pop.

I'd prefer a server with p99 exp rate, and no exp death for pvp and coin loot.

Hopefully no training but yet again i know how hard it is to police, and i really hate when pvp comes a fraps fest on the forums, so either you get a good way to police it or you just play no rules so everyone (not just the sneaky ones) can train.
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