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[Snaggles]

Originally Posted by kjs86z2 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We did. Think there were 8 permanently in VP alone.

I piloted them, too.

That’s the main reason there are dps bots. You don’t even need to set up a UI or hotkeys to get 95% raid dps out of the class. It’s a carrot on the stick to try and convince the 11th Druid in ToV or 5th shaman in Kael to swap to a useful class.

Rangers at 5% the raid comp aren’t a progression bottleneck in 2026.

[Awsten_Tx]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Your guild doesn't have armies of rogue bots. In fact, you got snubbed when you leveled one for the guild. Castle had at least 6 last I played, well over a year ago, and Blue where he's from is literally the server that started bot meta, so it's pretty obvious to think they do. It's easy to have bot armies on a dead server with old mains. Wonder why that didn't happen as much in GG.

its easy to have bot armies on a server that allowed unlimited pbaoe pulling for an extended period of time...

But yes, I play green and I dont see alot of rogue bots. I know Kingdom has Misty Thickest (litrally S tier name) and GG has a couple VP rogue bots.

[Goregasmic]

Originally Posted by Awsten_Tx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

its easy to have bot armies on a server that allowed unlimited pbaoe pulling for an extended period of time...

But yes, I play green and I dont see alot of rogue bots. I know Kingdom has Misty Thickest (litrally S tier name) and GG has a couple VP rogue bots.

Safe space has wizard bots, they were in TOFS during the xmas event.

[Keebz]

ST 100% incentivized leveling rogues in Kunark in preparation for Velious. They gave DKP for people leveling rogues, ran guild power level sessions, etc. It was a thing, but they weren't bots in the traditional sense. The messaging was everyone should have a rogue for Velious. It seemed to go well for them and GG (and its splinters) inherited a mass of rogues this way.

[kjs86z2]

a few bards made a ton of DKP leveling 5 rogues at a time in DN

after the DN spiders started summoning, they took it to velks, and now thats gone too

deso had a little effort called "project lightning" too where we mass leveled wizards

that was fun:

[Kalman]

If you want proper starting stat advice as a Ranger, don't listen to other Rangers. Their class choice already proves they can't min-max.

The only correct option is +20 Stam. If you put +20 into Str, your character is gimped at level 60.

[kjs86z2]

Originally Posted by Kalman [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you want proper starting stat advice as a Ranger, don't listen to other Rangers. Their class choice already proves they can't min-max.

The only correct option is +20 Stam. If you put +20 into Str, your character is gimped at level 60.

lmfao ok

[Crede]

Odd viewpoint since this game can be beaten with pretty much just warriors and clerics.

[Kirdan]

Your starting stats really don't matter, but if you must min/max for your own sanity:

STR will be the most impactful if untwinked or on a fresh server, and
WIS will be the most impactful at end game

People who say that STR gimps your char don't know what they are talking about. In fact, it's the right choice for most classes in most situations.