Somebody with wiki permissions...

[Wayward]

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[Cecily]

Originally Posted by Tann [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

last version before the cataclysm, which doesn't contain alternative facts:

https://wiki.project1999.com/index.p...s&oldid=460673

maybe just add a link at the top of whatever slop is the newest version so people have the option to see what could've been

You mean literally the one I was reverting it to?

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You mean literally the one I was reverting it to?

Yes. Please do not troll the wiki.

I have plenty of evidence to support my combat formulas, including videos, logs, and code from the EQEMU. The previous version of the page did not have that, and I can easily show the previous combat formulas are less accurate than mine.

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This was the previous formula:
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Mod] = (Skill + STR) / 100
[Max Damage] = ([Mod] x [Weapon Damage]) + [Main Hand Bonus]

This is wrong. My level 60 Shaman hits for a max of 84 damage with Spear of Fate.

[Mod] = (200 skill + 255 STR) / 100 = 4.55
[Main Hand Bonus] = 0
[Max Damage] = (4.55 x 20) + 0 = 91

The old formula is off by 7. My formula is off by 0.

My level 60 Shadowknight hits for a max of 258 with Ancient Fire Etched Flamberge.

[Mod] = (225 skill + 231 STR) / 100 = 4.56
[Main Hand Bonus] = 37
[Max Damage] = (4.56 x 46) + 37 = 246

The old formula is off by 12. My formula is off by 1.

This is the new formula:
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Level 60 Shaman Spear of Fate

1. Wrath = 200 Pierce Skill + ((255 STR * 2) - 150) / 3 + 20 Worn ATK from 2x Aura_of_Battle + 100 Spell ATK from Primal_Avatar = 440
2. RolledD20 = 20 / 10 = 2
3a. Base Bonus = (440 Wrath - 80 minusFactor) / 2 = 180 rounded down
3b. Extra Percent = 100 + (180 Base Bonus * 1.0 Random Value) = 280
3c. Extra Percent = 210, because 280 > 210 maxExtra
3d. DamageDone = (20 Weapon Damage * 2 RolledD20 * 210 ExtraPercent) / 100 = 84
4. 84 + 0 Main Hand Damage Bonus = 84

Max Damage Calculated = 84
Max Damage Recorded = 84

Level 60 Shadowknight with Ancient Fire Etched Flamberge

1. Wrath = 225 2Hand Slash Skill + ((231 STR * 2) - 150) / 3 + 10 worn ATK from Aura_of_Battle + 6 worn ATK from Blazing_Gauntlets_of_Fennin_Ro = 345
2. RolledD20 = 20 / 10 = 2
3a. Base Bonus = (345 Wrath - 65 minusFactor) / 2 = 140
3b. Extra Percent = 100 + (140 Base Bonus * 1.0 Random Value) = 240
3c. DamageDone = (46 Weapon Damage * 2 RolledD20 * 240 ExtraPercent) / 100 = 220 rounded down
4. 220 + 37 Main Hand Damage Bonus = 258

Max Damage Calculated = 257
Max Damage Recorded = 258

[Ekco]

"There is way too much information on this article."
- Jado818 19:29, 6 March 2012 (UTC)

Whomst is trolling who here

it objectively looks worse now, all that shit should be behind a [Expand] button

[Duik]

Originally Posted by Ekco [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

"There is way too much information on this article."
- Jado818 19:29, 6 March 2012 (UTC)

Whomst is trolling who here

it objectively looks worse now, all that shit should be behind a [Expand] button

This. Everyone happy.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Ekco [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

"There is way too much information on this article."
- Jado818 19:29, 6 March 2012 (UTC)

Whomst is trolling who here

it objectively looks worse now, all that shit should be behind a [Expand] button

I don't think the opinion of one person 14 years ago is great evidence.

https://wiki.project1999.com/index.p...cs&oldid=38511

Even in 2012, a month before this comment, the top of the page reads:

This page is intended for a more technical discussion of the game mechanics. For instance, equations governing combat, how STA translates into HP, how the con color system scales with level.

I honestly don't understand where people got this idea that the page should only be a few hundred words, and non-technical.

[Cecily]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yes. Please do not troll the wiki.

I have plenty of evidence to support my combat formulas, including videos, logs, and code from the EQEMU. The previous version of the page did not have that, and I can easily show the previous combat formulas are less accurate than mine.

I don't give a fuck you god damn sperg. Shut up.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't give a fuck you god damn sperg. Shut up.

Then please stop messing with the wiki, since you don't care. Thank you.

[Reiwa]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yes. Please do not troll the wiki.

I have plenty of evidence to support my combat formulas, including videos, logs, and code from the EQEMU. The previous version of the page did not have that, and I can easily show the previous combat formulas are less accurate than mine.

Want to argue if it's trolling or vandalism?

[bcbrown]

Originally Posted by Ekco [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

it objectively looks worse now, all that shit should be behind a [Expand] button

How do you think it looks now? I just tried to reorganize it to make it more readable.