Game Mechanics: Staff of Temperate Flux and Rod of Insidious Glamour Should not be useable on move

[Defo]

Staff was spammable. As others have said, it was used not only to pull, but also to test spell range.

You'd pull a mob and spam Staff until it said Your target is out of range, that's how you knew to stop and start casting the quad spell.

I was also a wizard player from 2000-2004. I quadded many, many mobs using this method.

[Awsten_Tx]

Originally Posted by Defo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Staff was spammable. As others have said, it was used not only to pull, but also to test spell range.

You'd pull a mob and spam Staff until it said Your target is out of range, that's how you knew to stop and start casting the quad spell.

I was also a wizard player from 2000-2004. I quadded many, many mobs using this method.

Cool show me logs, video, or screenshots even of casting faster than a dain hammer.

Otherwise the trust me bro argument has 0 merit.

[Defo]

Originally Posted by Awsten_Tx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Cool show me logs, video, or screenshots even of casting faster than a dain hammer.

Otherwise the trust me bro argument has 0 merit.

And your half-baked pulling forum posts with NONE having players complaining about casting time on the staff?

To be honest, at this point the SoTF is so useful when solo'ing, I'd
equip it instead of the SotW. Remember, it's not just the debuff
abilty (which is so tiny as to not be noticable), it lets you judge
the range of your nukes, so you know when to stop running and start
blasting.

Whatever crusade your on: you're incorrect. You have no evidence, either. You claim it wasn't reverted, but you have 4 players here who claim to have played wizards and they all state it was instant and spammable.

I trust the other 3, over you.

Unsubbed. Don't bother responding to me.

[Awsten_Tx]

Sorry patch notes and current evidence > trust me bro

As i said you can use the dian hammer on the move, just cant spam it 5 times a second. Which is in line with the patch notes

[Awsten_Tx]

Also its worth noting, checking range is possible with literally ANY spell. The benefit of the clicky item is that it didnt have a long spell time requiring you to interupt to immediately check again.

So while I understand it was useable on the run, and understand wizards used it to check range once every half to full second, it was NOT spammable 4 to 5 times a second.

[Awsten_Tx]

Looks like Testing with dain hammer yielded a maximum of 2.2 clicks per second on the move.

[Danth]

Note also that yaulp (which has a sort-of-lengthy .5 cast time) can quite often successfully cast whilst running. Depends mostly on things like server ticks and latency. This would be true of any spell or item with a sufficiently fast cast time, and the faster the spell, the easier it gets. .1 may as well be instant as far as anyone should care in this regard, although less rapidly spammable than a true instant spell. Real purpose of this change was to prevent someone running a turbo button to spam 100X a second or some such. Could be the cast time was briefly longer then soon reduced. Not all such changes are well-documented.

[drakleon99]

So I played a wizard during Live, and leveled up specifically during the velious era. (There's a reason I can never look at those cobalt scar wyrvyns again).

Flux staff was absolutely usable on the run as I would use it every day to tag my 4 wyrvyns for my quad kites as anyone else would remember who playing a wizard during this era.

Using this line:

- Casting times have been implemented on several activatable items.
This was done to correct issues that could arise from people
chain-casting these items.

Is definitely disingenuous as you are claiming this particular item that nearly everyone is saying was always instant was one of the ones changed when plenty of other instant items like Jboots were not. According to your logic, this patch note changed those too along with my Bracer of the Hidden or my Drums of the Beast. I think it would be best not to make assumptions intended to change established item mechanics on a guess or worse, due to a raiding motive.