Dual wield logic

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by WarpathEQ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Where are the red heads when you need them? It seems to me the meta was deleveling toons to gain significant advantage in PVP which doesn't jive with this sentiment. Maybe someone in the know can confirm.

Initially your delevelled skill in pvp wouldn’t be subject to cap. This got nerfed on pvp servers so your delevelled skills would be capped at 5 levels above your current level. Afaik on pve servers a delevelled characters skills wouldn’t get clipped at all.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Initially your delevelled skill in pvp wouldn’t be subject to cap. This got nerfed on pvp servers so your delevelled skills would be capped at 5 levels above your current level. Afaik on pve servers a delevelled characters skills wouldn’t get clipped at all.

Yeah it should be easy to test. I'd probably use Meditate as the skill to check. Compare how much mana you get per tick before and after the delevel. The EQEMU code does have checks that look at player level specifically throughout the code. So I am not sure if the check that prevents double attack from triggering on offhand swings is based on player level, skill level, or both.

[Snaggles]

When you delevel does your displayed skill via your paper doll skill menu decrease? I’ve never checked it.

The only time I legitimately deleveled (outside making EE’s at 60) was to make a Nagafen draft with my 54 wiz and then went back to click the 10 or so bodies. It still wasn’t worth it in the end.

IMHO, much of the DW vs 2h debates come down to a couple weapon sets which you can easily test under various circumstances. The toughest and most contested one is how they parse against raid targets due to short and inconsistent fights. I guess you could string together enough Vindi’s to make sense of it or just go with “best single x vs best single y”

[Goregasmic]

Originally Posted by Snaggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

When you delevel does your displayed skill via your paper doll skill menu decrease? I’ve never checked it.

The only time I legitimately deleveled (outside making EE’s at 60) was to make a Nagafen draft with my 54 wiz and then went back to click the 10 or so bodies. It still wasn’t worth it in the end.

IMHO, much of the DW vs 2h debates come down to a couple weapon sets which you can easily test under various circumstances. The toughest and most contested one is how they parse against raid targets due to short and inconsistent fights. I guess you could string together enough Vindi’s to make sense of it or just go with “best single x vs best single y”

On high AC targets a lot of your hits will become minimum hits so I guess it is somewhat down to which setup can optimize minimum hit damage?

Kinda like peacebringer vs IFS. IFS has a slightly better ratio and 4 extra damage bonus but peacebringer is 33% faster. In general peacebringer is probably the better weapon until tstaff.