What have been the biggest nerfs?

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by Duik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

They can still play, they just cant fuck it for everyone else while swarming, oops I mean playing.

afaik swarming didn't even become how the class was played until Plane of Fire? Dulak's Harbour? So from a classic perspective (which I know diverges from a p1999 perspective) the post to which you reply (for me) land disingenously (but again, I get we are playing p99, not classic).

P99 needs to have some fake position update lag to make kiting more classic. The way the server works here it feels like the server and client are too well insync, so you don't get those random hits when a mob is trailing a few feet out of melee range from you due to random desyncs.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

afaik swarming didn't even become how the class was played until Plane of Fire? Dulak's Harbour? So from a classic perspective (which I know diverges from a p1999 perspective) the post to which you reply (for me) land disingenously (but again, I get we are playing p99, not classic).

P99 needs to have some fake position update lag to make kiting more classic. The way the server works here it feels like the server and client are too well insync, so you don't get those random hits when a mob is trailing a few feet out of melee range from you due to random desyncs.

I 99% agree with this post, and I agree we need more classic potential for things to go wrong here (it's unclassically easy).

However, swarming was a thing. As early as Velious or maybe early Luclin, I had a Bard friend IRL. I distinctly remember being at his house and him showing me this crazy new technique in OT that the forums had taught him.

So it certainly wasn't how most bards played (most players didn't read the forums!) ... but at least it existed in classic.