Ranger Geo Parsing (many weapons)

[Goregasmic]

Originally Posted by kjs86z2 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

swarmcaller is just budget slow til epic and 100% worth it to open with every mob if solo

Yeah I still use it every mob and EC would be a great QOL upgrade that's why I'm saying I'm not sure why you'd dismiss epics unless you have access to a cheap meldeljin or something and even then you're still stuck swapping for an inferior weapon.

[Jimjam]

Sw super easy, do it for craic and fill out that 40% haste at 46 until you can replace.

Honestly my 60 ranger still uses one and swaps primary between ec and tunare braid.

[Snaggles]

TBH, I thought the Swamcaller would be closer to the Earthcaller at this point with the 2h changes. I still carry one though since for 500p it’s hard not to and makes for that one-click swap.

I think the EC and claw are a bit closer than my test showed (one SW parse was 69 which is far below the rest). Taking that out the average of the BoF/SW would jump to 83 vs 88 with the BoF/claw. The SW might even be closer on higher level mobs where the hit low/high spread is greater.

The Tunare braid is another underrated weapon. 50/tick from that dot is just over 8dps when active. Very similar to the SK epic (minus the tap aspect). If it lands on the fight, that dot is really pumping up your numbers despite not showing up on the public parse.

There are a lot of solid raid upgrades for a ranger that aren’t a ton of points. A Meljeldin or Shovel would be one-stop shopping and are the cheapest way to check that BiS ratio goal. A primal 2h is cheap and synergizes well with them. Even with worn haste and shiss that one-two swap is the best way to really good raid numbers outside a BFG.

[TytosOfEight]

Swiftwind may shine when the changes to Archery drop. That bonus Atk in the offhand will be unbeatable.

[Snaggles]

Oh yea, or with the BFG. Im sure it’s still BiS for that.

The Swiftwind is a very fun and easy quest that provides a solid item. There is a better case for it than against it.

[Awsten_Tx]

Originally Posted by Snaggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is a continuation of this post which I figured should be organized as a new thread:

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...&postcount=328

I did a lot more Geonid killing in WL trying to keep the stats as close as possible for comparison sake. No buffs like DS or Call of Fire which would mess with the parse. No proccing Avatar either since the upkeep is annoying. Lastly, when/if the geo ran I would turn to face it. Most the ones I fought were still blue but I wasn’t only killing blues. I did not fight shams intentionally but seems one snuck in below which I labeled. Ideally I would have done more than 5-10 fights per set, tried with and without Avatar, or even found a target that isn't a low/mid 40's npc since I do not think this will scale to raid mobs. That said...it's a pretty controlled test. Sorry again about the formatting.

https://wiki.project1999.com/index.p...elo_Blue:Blerv

Baton of Flame/Claw of Lightning 100%, no DS, no Avatar, no Call of Fire etc
Greater Wolf Form, SoN, CoTP, one AoB, Storm Strength
237 STR, 1352 Attack Power, 91% Haste (Dragon gloves + Sky cloak)

Total=Dmg=Time=DPS=Dmg to PC
7778=84=92=2159
7887=82=96=1251
7358=89=84=2280
7491=91=82=1700
7692=85=90=1919
7933=93=85=2535
7892=89=88=2886
7091=78=90=1364
7548=83=90=1837

Total Damage 75763
Total Time 852
Average DPS 88
Total Damage Taken 19451

Meljeldin 100%, no DS, no Avatar, no Call of Fire etc
Greater Wolf Form, SoN, CoTP, one AoB, Storm Strength
239 STR, 1353 Attack Power, 91% Haste (Dragon gloves + Sky cloak)

Total Dmg=Time=DPS=Dmg to PC
7964=106=75=2456
7302=79=92=1891
7544=91=82=2181
7563=89=85=1700
7195=70=102=1138
7744=83=93=1802
7853=99=79=2548
7967=86=92=1835
7409=73=101=2759
7544=96=78=1158

Total Damage 76085
Total Time 873
Average DPS 87
Total Damage Taken 19,468


Baton of Flame and Swiftwind 100%, no DS, no Avatar, no Call of Fire etc
Greater Wolf Form, SoN, CoTP, one AoB, Storm Strength
234 STR, 1389 Attack Power, 151 Dex, 91% Haste (Dragon gloves + Sky cloak

Mob=Total Dmg=Time=DPS=Dmg to PC
geo=7543=109=69=2247
geo=7307=85=85=1130
geo=7512=89=84=1892
geo=7362=91=80=1520
geo=7774=94=82=1723
geo=7507=99=76=1759
geo=7318=80=91=2598
geo=7939=95=83=2905
geo=7708=85=90=1599
geo=7920=103=76=1690

Total Damage 83,810
Total Time 1031
Average DPS 81

Essence Mace and Silver Whip of Rage 100%, no DS, no Avatar, no Call of Fire etc Greater Wolf Form, SoN, CoTP, one AoB, Storm Strength
227 STR, 1342 Attack Power, 154 Dex, 91% Haste (Dragon gloves + Sky cloak)

Mob=Total Dmg=Time=DPS=Dmg to PC
geo sham=7356=85=86=1261
geo=7711=95=81=1283
geo=7715=95=81=1579
geo=7401=88=84=1341
geo=7721=103=74=2185
geo=7088=82=86=1575
geo=7911=99=79=2235
geo=7080=80=88=1720
geo=7937=82=82=2232
geo=7108=89=79=1533
geo=7599=106=71=1775

Total Damage 90,704
Total Time 1148
Average DPS 79

Silver Whip of Rage and Swiftwind 100%, no DS, no Avatar, no Call of Fire etc
Greater Wolf Form, SoN, CoTP, one AoB, Storm Strength
234 STR, 1389 Attack Power, 151 Dex, 91% Haste (Dragon gloves + Sky cloak)

Mob=Total Dmg=Time=DPS=Dmg to PC
geo=7129=90=79=1010
geo=7562=101=74=906
geo=7742=105=73=1039
geo=7920=107=74=1705
geo=7518=101=74=1469
geo=7941=105=75=1595
geo=7506=100=75=978
geo=7367=92=80=2161
geo=7970=111=71=2086
geo=7508=101=74=1699

Total Damage 76,163
Total Time 1017
Average DPS 74

Earthcaller & Silver Whip of Rage /Silver Whip of Rage & Claw of Lightning on slow
No DS, no Avatar, no Call of Fire etc
Greater Wolf Form, SoN, CoTP, one AoB, Storm Strength
244 initial STR*, 1357 Attack Power, 91% Haste (Dragon gloves + Sky cloak)
*I forgot to get the swapped stats

Total Dmg=Time=DPS=Dmg to PC
6923=96=72=1223
7232=94=76=548
7276=96=75=2026
7184=92=78=836
7200=91=79=1053
7547=90=83=1330
7074=114=62=993
7903=120=65=1618
7165=97=73=1196
Total Damage 72722
Total Time 995
Average DPS 73
Total Damage Taken 11994

Earthcaller and Swiftwind 100%, no DS, no Avatar, no Call of Fire etc
Greater Wolf Form, SoN, CoTP, one AoB, Storm Strength
249 STR, 1403 Attack Power, 161 Dex, 91% Haste (Dragon gloves + Sky cloak)

Mob=Total Dmg=Time=DPS=Dmg to PC
geo 7323=107=68=1802
geo 7248=117=61=1971
geo 7761=101=76=1719
geo 7318=117=62=1690
geo 7723=122=63=2202

Total Damage 37,373
Total Time 570
Average DPS 65

Swarmcaller 100%, no DS, no Avatar, no Call of Fire etc
Greater Wolf Form, SoN, CoTP, one AoB, Storm Strength
227 STR, 1342 Attack Power, 154 Dex, 91% Haste (Dragon gloves + Sky cloak)

Mob=Total Dmg=Time=DPS=Dmg to PC
geo 7766=143=54=1900
geo 7668=161=47=2548
geo 7843=164=47=1909
geo 7399=139=53=1551
geo=7171=115=62=1714

Total Damage 37,847
Total Time 726.
Average DPS 52

Thanks for the post, this is good information. My onl;y critique is population size. I would prefer to see alot more data points for each weapon set. I did a bunch of testing on AIH for ranger weapon combos and this data supports those findings.

Although it doesnt "parse" you will find the braid of golden hair actually outperforms the claw of lightning in the offhand by a couple dps.

I have a pdf of my report and the backup data available if you want it from my AIH testing. you are welcome to review.

[Snaggles]

Originally Posted by Awsten_Tx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Thanks for the post, this is good information. My onl;y critique is population size. I would prefer to see alot more data points for each weapon set. I did a bunch of testing on AIH for ranger weapon combos and this data supports those findings.

Although it doesnt "parse" you will find the braid of golden hair actually outperforms the claw of lightning in the offhand by a couple dps.

I have a pdf of my report and the backup data available if you want it from my AIH testing. you are welcome to review.

I completely agree this is not a sample size I’m happy with. Glad it’s not too far off base though!

I’d love to see your testing and will certainly pick up a Braid. Makes sense it would outrun the claw if the dot lands…that’s 8dps alone while ticking.

[Cecily]

If proc don't proc then procless worse weapon is worse. If proc procs, you get 200 damage over 24 seconds. I don't care for that weapon.

[Awsten_Tx]

but proc weapons...

do...

proc...

like saying if primal doesnt proc. Doesnt mean its not good. Logic isnt logicing

[Snaggles]

If you get an early proc though you can swap in the CoL for a net positive of 8.3dps for 24 seconds. It’s like a second avatar.