Claiming a camp

[Belambic]

Oh, I agree, but just pointing out that you aren't camp stealing if you get the FTE if the camper is taking his own sweet time in engaging.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Belambic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Oh, I agree, but just pointing out that you aren't camp stealing if you get the FTE if the camper is taking his own sweet time in engaging.

Just be aware you may need to do some elf lawyering if you get petitioned on. If a GM does show up, the ruling may not go in your favor.

Personally I wouldn't risk getting punished over a 1.8k plat item. You could just farm the plat for it in a shorter period of time than waiting 18 hours for an earring if you get unlucky.

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by Belambic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

BTW, the server rules state that Hadden is a FTE camp.

As I understand your quote shows claiming a spawn is FTE, which implies once it is claimed, it is no longer open to FTE... i.e. you get to keep it until you get the item or give up.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

As I understand your quote shows claiming a spawn is FTE, which implies once it is claimed, it is no longer open to FTE... i.e. you get to keep it until you get the item or give up.

Generally speaking once you claim the camp, it's yours. But the wording in there does allow someone to take the camp if you are AFK while a pop has occured, and you haven't killed the mob in a reasonable amount of time, like 5 minutes.

As an example, I got the Stormfeather map piece for my SK because of this. While I was waiting in line (I was like 3rd in line), a quake happened. SF popped, but everyone was AFK. I killed SF and locked the corpse until the last 30 seconds of it decaying. I was messaging the first player in line, but they were AFK. So I got the map piece.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Goregasmic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I typed p99 camp rules in google and that was first result for me:

https://wiki.project1999.com/Camp_Rules

Very last paragraph:



Quote dated to 2014 but yeah, the PNP says no rule to hand off camp unless you make a list then you have to honor it.

So for hadden I guess you can hold it indefinitely if someome comes to pick up the earrings you get, as long as you don't die/zone/log. I guess selling LRs is the same deal, someone picks it up and you can stay there. I think that is/was the deal with drusella or Stormfeather.

/sigh I must be getting old, because I wrote that page!

But yeah, as a past GM ruling it falls into quasi-elf law. GMs do try to rule similarly to past GMs, but they aren't strictly bound to do so. Until someone tries to petition, there's no way to know how the staff will rule.

It certainly seems to fit the spirit of the place to say that once you get your item, it's time to move on ... but that spirit certainly hasn't influenced every GM ruling here.

[sammoHung]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ancient Cyclops and Stormfeather operate on a list basis. You cannot simply run in and steal them on pop if other players are there.

And the state of the server is such that there is one no-lifer who camps Stormfeather 24/7 and sells Loot Rights.

And there is Hyphydruidboy / Snakpacc who sits at OOT AC all day every day.

I got all 4 of my Stormfeather's on server resets. Perks of having a simple PC with fast internet and living close to server locations.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by sammoHung [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And the state of the server is such that there is one no-lifer who camps Stormfeather 24/7 and sells Loot Rights.

And there is Hyphydruidboy / Snakpacc who sits at OOT AC all day every day.

I got all 4 of my Stormfeather's on server resets. Perks of having a simple PC with fast internet and living close to server locations.

That's how non-instanced games work. Spoils go to the players with the longest neckbeards. That's why getting the item feels so good, you beat everyone else. It is also why instanced games generally feel hollow. Everybody gets the same loot with little to no friction.

[Goregasmic]

Originally Posted by Belambic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

BTW, the server rules state that Hadden is a FTE camp.

Open Outdoor Zones can be anything from Western Wastes, Karanas or West Commons. There are no staff recognized camps for this zone type outside of single spawn points. Examples of single spawn types might be Ocean of Tears Ancient Cyclops, Iceclad Ocean Stormfeather, or Qeynos Hills Hadden.

The examples are single spawn points thus considered camps. I think they mean more like you can't claim quillmane and the such because they're not single spawn points. You can announce the zone you're trying to spawn quillmane but if some guy just zones in and stumbles on her it remains FTE.

[bcbrown]

Originally Posted by Camulet [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What’s the deal if someone is permanently camping Hadden? I’ve been trying for weeks to camp as need eb item and the same Druid Kerasha is there always, I’ve checked a lot and they appear to perma camp it for plat. But they must either 2box or it’s a group of people who take shifts as they’re there 24/7 as far as I can tell.

I’m getting desperate and am getting to the point where I’m thinking of just killing him when he pops.

Do I have any options? Or will the GM side with them despite it going against the spirit of EQ?

No one's there right now, btw.