Returning Player - Class Advice

[Crede]

Originally Posted by Defo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Thanks for the suggestion. I may go with cleric, but I'm definitely not interested in tank classes. My first toon years ago on p99 was a Shadow Knight, and around 45 or so the places I was able to solo in got extremely limited.

Shaman is a possibility as well, but I really like the freedom of options for levelling for enchanter. I typically only have time to play while the server is still asleep.

I have also noticed that there are plenty of enchanters who are soloing just fine with cheap armor. I just want to spend this plat, haha!

Incorrect about sk. You can get very creative fear kiting with the right places. I fear kited in hs from 55-60. Going a slam race can help troll is best for solo. I would recommend this if going melee route.

If going caster route I’d go necro and try for a zheart. That class was ridiculously easy to level I felt like cheating and having fd if needed to afk is great and eventually just Rez yourself if shit hits the fan. It’s nice having multiple ways to kill stuff my enc can kill more high end targets but I actually had way more fun leveling the necro. Depends what you want at 60 or just in it for the journey.

[Goregasmic]

Originally Posted by Defo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I have also noticed that there are plenty of enchanters who are soloing just fine with cheap armor. I just want to spend this plat, haha!

My chanter has like 80k worth of gear on him and I'm working on dropping another ~80k in SS MQs. If you add the no life epic parts LR you could go over 250k easy total.

Like most classes, sky is the limit if you want to go to the very end of the spectrum. Just a ring of lightning is 90k.

[bcbrown]

Originally Posted by Defo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Thanks for the suggestion. I may go with cleric, but I'm definitely not interested in tank classes. My first toon years ago on p99 was a Shadow Knight, and around 45 or so the places I was able to solo in got extremely limited.

Shaman is a possibility as well, but I really like the freedom of options for levelling for enchanter. I typically only have time to play while the server is still asleep.

I have also noticed that there are plenty of enchanters who are soloing just fine with cheap armor. I just want to spend this plat, haha!

Are you more interested in getting a high-powered lvl 60 who can do hard stuff, or are you more interested in the journey to 60?

If the latter I'd like to just mention that with a fungi, a bunch of hp/ac gear, and a good weapon, a druid can melee really well into the high 40s. It's a really fun way to play the class, and then you'll also be able to quad, charm, root rot. Self ports and sow lets you quickly bounce between different camps to make the most of limited playtime.

Obviously the power curve drops at 60 compared to enchanter/necro/shaman but there's still some fun stuff to do. Kedge sucks for extended sessions because the respawn timer is so long but it's great to pop in for an hour or so and pick off any nameds that are up, and there's a couple fun camps in Sirens Grotto. The synergy with a manastone isn't quite as good as with a cleric, but since you can always easily port back to the old world you can still get good use out of it in Kunark/Velious camps. Also since almost none of the fun toys are no-drop (except earthcrafter gloves) it's easy to pivot if you're not enjoying it.

Originally Posted by Goregasmic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

My chanter has like 80k worth of gear on him and I'm working on dropping another ~80k in SS MQs.

You could join a raiding guild and get that within a month or two no problem without spending the plat.

[Vexenu]

Originally Posted by Defo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

My question is: I am aiming to have a completely self-sufficient character that I can log in during my limited playtime, about 2 hours per day max, and bang around my old stomping grounds of Norrath. I have weird off-peak availability, so my character would likely be mostly solo. If I had a ton of resources (plat wise) to put into a single character - what are your thoughts on which class I should go with?

You have received a lot of replies, but it seems as if most posters didn't actually read the question carefully, because if they had, everyone would have provided the same answer: you should roll a Druid.

First of all, you can get a LOT of mileage by heavily twinking a Druid. Fungi, AC/HP gear, haste and good weapons will pay huge dividends on a Druid from 1-40. Then you'll want more +WIS and mana gear as you get into the 40s and 50s. Goblin Gazughi Ring and Lumi Staff are two other items that can make a huge difference for a Druid.

But the main reason to roll a Druid is that the class is very self-sufficient and friendly for casual play. Being able to port yourself around is the absolute pinnacle of convenience, and ensures that you will always be able to make the most of limited playtime. And the rest of the Druid kit, which provides a load of utility and versatility, means that you will never lack for something to do (whether that is charm killing, quad kiting, root rotting, tracking rare mobs for quests/tradeskill drops, selling ports while you semi-afk, buffing newbs at Druid rings, or powerleveling for plat). No other class combines the convenience and versatility of the Druid.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by bcbrown [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You could join a raiding guild and get that within a month or two no problem without spending the plat.

I wouldn't be so quick to assume a timeline like that. Could you get the required DKP in a month or two of frequent play? Probably.

Will you be able to attend the specific raid where the item you need drops, another guild isn't contesting it, and you aren't outbid by another guildie? That's the real question. Remember gratz Bladefrenzy?[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I bought my Shaman's Epic while I was frequently raiding in Aftermath. I had enough DKP, but I was really unlucky with child tear drops. They just wouldn't drop whenever I did a fear raid. Farming the plat was the faster path in the end, and I paid 75k.

When looking at HoT drops specifically, I am also unlucky with those. My SK needs plate arms, but they never seem to drop when I go to HoT.

I do agree with you that joining a guild is a great way to get items without needing to spend plat, but RnG isn't always on your side. Nor is your play schedule in relation to the raid mob(s) you need to kill.

[bcbrown]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I wouldn't be so quick to assume a timeline like that. Could you get the required DKP in a month or two of frequent play? Probably.

The subtext here is that I've been lowkey trying to recruit Goregasmic to our guild for a couple months now [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But now you've given me a good segue to recruit for Syndicate on Green. Skyshrine armor usually goes for 1-10 DKP per piece, rarely up to 30 dkp. I'm literally raiding right now in hot (afk bard ftw), and an enchanter who joined last week just got a SS hat for 1 dkp. Last Friday we had 40 for some plate arms, a chain bracer for 1 dkp, 100 for a silk robe, 1 for leather tunic for a main, 40 for a leather tunic for an alt (so no other main needed it), 1 for chain bracers, 1 for plate gloves. So there's plenty of pieces going for minimal DKP. Silk is probably the most-in-demand but a month of raiding will definitely yield several pieces of armor.

That new enchanter just got silk pants for 1dkp right now [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[bcbrown]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

When looking at HoT drops specifically, I am also unlucky with those. My SK needs plate arms, but they never seem to drop when I go to HoT.

I got plate arms tonight, as well as plate boots and chain arms, all for less than the dkp I earned from the raid [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Defo]

Thanks all for the insight, good reads here!

I am split between Enchanter and Druid. Leaning heavily to Enchanter, because I actually levelled a druid to mid 50s years ago but burned out on Permafrost. I want to be able to solo as far as possible, but also be utilized in groups. Not interested in raiding: been there done that on p99.

I really enjoy the journey to 60, and most importantly I enjoy being able to solo / duo / trio crawl through dungeons.

[Goregasmic]

Originally Posted by bcbrown [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You could join a raiding guild and get that within a month or two no problem without spending the plat.

I don't want to hijack the thread but I'm on a trip outside the country. Joining a guild was the first order of business when I come back next week, expect to hear from me [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But yeah, was kinda looking forward to ruining my SS faction but wanted to get some SS pieces nailed down before. I sure could use that money elsewhere but MQs seemed the fastest way.

[TheBlob]

Originally Posted by Defo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Thanks all for the insight, good reads here!

I am split between Enchanter and Druid. Leaning heavily to Enchanter, because I actually levelled a druid to mid 50s years ago but burned out on Permafrost. I want to be able to solo as far as possible, but also be utilized in groups. Not interested in raiding: been there done that on p99.

I really enjoy the journey to 60, and most importantly I enjoy being able to solo / duo / trio crawl through dungeons.

If you like soloing, enchanter has the highest ceiling due to being able to charm any kind of mob. Druid and necro can also charm and solo powerful targets, but they are limited to animals and undead, respectively. Druid has access to more utility/different play styles imo, but if you are hesitating between necro and enchanter, I would say go for enchanter for the power, or necro if the dead vibe (don't know how much the RP element is important to you) is something that speaks to you.

Also, enchanter can enchant metals to make magical jewelry, which is imo one of the more useful tradeskills.