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Old 01-03-2026, 03:02 PM
Keebz Keebz is offline
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Actually, Sol Ro wizard and to a lesser extent mage are also reasonable options for you.
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Old 01-03-2026, 03:53 PM
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That hasn't worked here for a long long time.

Also, I don't see how Necro meets your criteria. There are no classic clickies and they don't really benefit from Guise or to a lesser extent Manasone. Gnome Necro is a fantastic combo though.



Note that shrink isn't in the game for several months. Also DE is significantly less hated than troll/ogre so you get some mileage out of the illusion on an shaman in places like FP. I am not sure about Tribunal Barb in evil cities, but even if it just gets you OT faction, that's worth something, not to mention the Ultravision for barb is huge. So Barb shaman gets value out of every aspect of guise (size, vision, faction) and has the more neutral base faction. Inny Troll shaman gets you a sometimes useable clicky and has a FP friendly deity. Ogre RZ has a very neutral deity, benefits the most from the shrink and provides some value come Velious.

Anyway, suffice to say I think any non-cazic Shaman is the next best for your faction / legacy item min-max, behind Human Cleric of Innoruuk.

Honorable mentions: Human Druid of Tunare and Agnostic Human Monk.
Don't forget shaman and necromancer have true charm (necromancer also gets beguile) until July 1999 under true classic timeline.
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Old 01-03-2026, 04:38 PM
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All of this info is so helpful, really nice to delv into the details. Thank you!
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Old 01-03-2026, 04:43 PM
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I think an interesting exercise in all this fascinating min-maxing on new server talk would be to consider how this information would have helped you in terms of where you are at the moment on either Blue or Green. (It does not matter ((You've probably quit))
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Old 01-06-2026, 05:50 AM
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I’d only go Necro if you genuinely want to play a Necro, because for your min-max legacy/faction checklist it doesn’t really seem like the best fit like Keebz said
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Old 01-06-2026, 08:12 AM
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Tobius had the specific legacy/faction checklist, but this is still all useful info for me too. I haven't played in years so I enjoy all the min-max theory crafting.

I do want to play a necro on a fresh server but I know at some point it will drive me mad that I'm not Iksar haha. I'm running out of rationalizations, but maybe first into HS when it drops is good incentive. Even if I end up an ugly Gnome, the wall-peaking is nice there
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