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Old 10-22-2025, 02:05 PM
Vivitron Vivitron is offline
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Curious how the nearly BiS Bard face tanking compares to similarly geared Monks/SKs/Paladins for this sort of solo attempt. Do the Bard songs and procs together make up for the reduced DPS and defensive abilities? I mean, obviously it works well as Vivitron proved. But now I'm wondering if the Bard can actually pull off melee solo feats that those other classes couldn't.
I still think those other classes can toe-to-toe harder mobs. A good source publicly pushing solos on one of those classes is Keerarae's SK youtube. For example they pull off a cliff golem solo; my latest attempt I got a CG down to ~66%.

I'm starting to think about Phinigel Autropos but I don't know if that will be possible for a bard.

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I made (what I think) Bard BiS setups would look like

- All around BiS https://wiki.project1999.com/Magelo_Blue:Phenomic_BiS - Melee focus with max base dex
- Mana focus https://wiki.project1999.com/Magelo_...mic_BiS_(mana)) - Theoretical max mana.
- Hp build https://wiki.project1999.com/Magelo_Blue:Franswa (didn't make this one, but he's stacked!)
- My toon is here right now https://wiki.project1999.com/Magelo_Blue:Phenomic

I think my "All around BiS" is a good balance of +HP, Max dex (for proc city), and decent mana pool (for 2x dirges). Could swap out BP of eradication for vindi BP for max Aura of battle. Additionally you might swap out an item or 2 for 3x dirges etc.

The mana build sacrifices some HP, BUT you get insane burst DPS:

4k mana means 5x https://wiki.project1999.com/Denon%27s_Desperate_Dirge

5x dirge with epic is 691dd * 5. 3456dd in 17 seconds

5x dirge with puretone is 966dd * 5. 4830dd in 17 seconds

Add in https://wiki.project1999.com/Brusco%...mbastic_Bellow for extra 600dd

BiS DPS 4830 + 600 = 5,430 in 21 seconds (6 songs). 258 DPS

258 DPS + whatever melee dps u can dish out. $$$

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So in theory, you can start a fight, do 5,430dd in 21seconds, DA, swap songs, and continue to beat down whatever mob you trying to kill with your 3.1k hp + regens + rune/lifetap weapons

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TLDR; Battle bard setup IS FIRE

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Aside: https://wiki.project1999.com/Blood_Runed_Scimitar is legit for bards who dont have ST key and want to have a 45dd lifetap weapon with ok* ratio
Some interesting gear options in there. I think my tastes lean more towards Franswa's build, but I really need to plan it out to see if swapping a piece or two lets me hit some stat goals.

I'm thinking:
- 205 MR when holding instrument/epic so I would be max with blue flower
- 155 dex and agi so I'm max with primal (it would be a nice to have 175 dex to max with focus+vog, too. And I have had trouble pre-proccing my primal at the overseer camp, almost makes me regret not camping beads too)
- Would rather not give up any +hp
- As close to 255 sta as possible (even without sta weapons). Hitting that could lead to some compromises especially since I went cha with starting stats
- Pack on AC and other resists when possible

I'm not sure how much I value the face and belt AoB. I alraedy have the Barb mask and I think I want the Tuna click; hard to imagine bagging those items. Also no sure about Truesight. I want it but it seems like any Truesight is a stat compromise.

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This is wild! Definitely going to have to play around with some Dirge strats now.

@Vivitron can you confirm that CT Brain does increase mana regen? I know in theory FT is only improvement to mana regen for bards but I've heard mixed reviews that it might be broke on P99.

Don't think it will really be material to these strats or fights but more so just curious to know before I get my hands on one.
The brain does increase mana regen.
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Old 10-29-2025, 05:17 PM
Vivitron Vivitron is offline
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I made (what I think) Bard BiS setups would look like

- All around BiS https://wiki.project1999.com/Magelo_Blue:Phenomic_BiS - Melee focus with max base dex
- Mana focus https://wiki.project1999.com/Magelo_...mic_BiS_(mana)) - Theoretical max mana.
- Hp build https://wiki.project1999.com/Magelo_Blue:Franswa (didn't make this one, but he's stacked!)
- My toon is here right now https://wiki.project1999.com/Magelo_Blue:Phenomic

I think my "All around BiS" is a good balance of +HP, Max dex (for proc city), and decent mana pool (for 2x dirges). Could swap out BP of eradication for vindi BP for max Aura of battle. Additionally you might swap out an item or 2 for 3x dirges etc.

The mana build sacrifices some HP, BUT you get insane burst DPS:

4k mana means 5x https://wiki.project1999.com/Denon%27s_Desperate_Dirge

5x dirge with epic is 691dd * 5. 3456dd in 17 seconds

5x dirge with puretone is 966dd * 5. 4830dd in 17 seconds

Add in https://wiki.project1999.com/Brusco%...mbastic_Bellow for extra 600dd

BiS DPS 4830 + 600 = 5,430 in 21 seconds (6 songs). 258 DPS

258 DPS + whatever melee dps u can dish out. $$$

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So in theory, you can start a fight, do 5,430dd in 21seconds, DA, swap songs, and continue to beat down whatever mob you trying to kill with your 3.1k hp + regens + rune/lifetap weapons

---

TLDR; Battle bard setup IS FIRE

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Aside: https://wiki.project1999.com/Blood_Runed_Scimitar is legit for bards who dont have ST key and want to have a 45dd lifetap weapon with ok* ratio
Wiki seems a little wrong on Dirge; I'm seeing 621 with epic. Still useful though. I started using it and/or deftdance on the closer fights.

I lucked out getting a Regal Band of Bathezid then went a bit overboard camping Overseer. Overseer seems to usually hit me about 50 times so that's ~800 free damage above the Blazing Vambraces.

I am able to repeatably kill him. I'm up to 71 succesful kills of the cycle (14 Dal`guur), and I only remember having to cap once. Of the three mobs on the cycle only the "a scarred Overseer" is stunnable, but Brusco's Bombastic Bellow does the full 8 seconds on him (and is a fine nuke on the others), so that was a good tip.

Pre-proccing proved to be too much of a PITA, so I'm just starting with werewolf click. I may yet be swayed to your dex views.

I haven't justified the following mathematically, but I've stopped singing regen and do a dot twist instead. So my current twist is to open with Angstlich; if it is resisted get Denon's+Fufil's in and recast as soon as it recycles, then Denon's->Fufil's->(maybe Angstlich or Bellows)->Tuyens 1->Tuyens 2, not recasting on resist unless I need the mr debuff.

I am now regularly using Kazumi's through enrage, I think that has been a solid boost.

I got a couple A Wizened Herb Collector and Foreman Mirt`akk kills as well; it seems most of the nameds on this level are basically equal to eachother, so expanding the target list is a matter of pulling singles and avoiding wall healers or issues with the target fleeing.
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Old 10-29-2025, 06:23 PM
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It seems Puretone plus Psalm of Cooling + McVaxius would add 59dmg/hit. On that same mod, Chant of Fire and Frost are each 86.8/tick or 14.46dps each on top the Angtslich Assonance at 11.6dps. I guess Denon’s could take the place of a Chant depending on if poison lands easier than fire or cold (only in my shaman experience is poison annoying to land without malo & sini).

I expect the two damage shields will do slightly more dps than two dots (59/hit vs 28dps). There is the possibility of a resisted slow which favors a rolling DS. As you mentioned, 50 hits would be almost 3,000 damage. Not to mention the gains to Dirge and Bellow.

If you are toggling in drums of the beast/Denon Horn not discing Puretone it seems the dots might have the edge over the DS twist.

Again…I could be way off. My bard is very humble and I haven’t pressed the class much. This is very interesting stuff though [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.].
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Old 10-29-2025, 06:39 PM
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It seems Puretone plus Psalm of Cooling + McVaxius would add 59dmg/hit. On that same mod, Chant of Fire and Frost are each 86.8/tick or 14.46dps each on top the Angtslich Assonance at 11.6dps. I guess Denon’s could take the place of a Chant depending on if poison lands easier than fire or cold (only in my shaman experience is poison annoying to land without malo & sini).

I expect the two damage shields will do slightly more dps than two dots (59/hit vs 28dps). There is the possibility of a resisted slow which favors a rolling DS. As you mentioned, 50 hits would be almost 3,000 damage. Not to mention the gains to Dirge and Bellow.

If you are toggling in drums of the beast/Denon Horn not discing Puretone it seems the dots might have the edge over the DS twist. (edit: good point that puretone helps the ds relatively more.)

Again…I could be way off. My bard is very humble and I haven’t pressed the class much. This is very interesting stuff though [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.].
I think the dots do have the edge of ds until you get high resists, I'm looking at ballpark 150 second fights for these 50ish hits. So something like a third of the value of the damage shield as its dps, probably a bit less.
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Old 10-29-2025, 06:49 PM
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I think the dots do have the edge of ds until you get high resists, I'm looking at ballpark 150 second fights for these 50ish hits. So something like a third of the value of the damage shield as its dps, probably a bit less.
Ah that makes sense then.
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