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Old 10-29-2025, 09:46 AM
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I worked alongside Machine Learning researchers in 2023/2024. Working on "robotic vision" and "machine learning." The absolute fuckin hubris of some of the colleagues I had - to think they were smart enough to recreate actual intelligence. I remember asking a question to one of my colleagues if infrared signals, or other radar technology could be used to enhance robotic vision. Their response was, "we aren't focused on that - we're focused on image processing."

But image processing is only one of the senses that animals use to traverse the world. Yet autonomous cars all have this crazy image processing technology - but the goons that create it aren't focusing on the billions of years of sense evolution that predates vision. Yah know, instead of starting with an autonomous vehicle - why not start with an autonomous micro-organism? Or insect? That would be the pathway to real artificial intelligence, in my opinion.

I keep promising to stop calling it AI, but never can -- in reality it's either machine learning algorithms, large language models, transformers, or very basic convolutional neural networks and most definitely not a true "artificial intelligence"

But even some of these terms like machine "learning." Marketing terms to sell a product to increase funding for more research. It's really fucking dumb - the state of things. Electrical and Computer engineers are saying they have been able to replicate things that biologists and psychologists still don't completely understand.


But again - just a marketing ploy. Come up with catchy names for these things to trick the average Joe BigBucks Investor into dumping $10 mil into an advanced auto-complete, like most cell-phones have had for 10+ years now.

Hot take, but it's at least an educated take: Capitalism actually BAD for technological progress. Because the bottom line and investor returns are the only thing that matter. How can we get people to buy this shit? And how can we market this shit as shit that people "need" to live in the modern society? And how can we make sure that this shit is the only shit that drives innovation? And now we have this ridiculous auroboros of an economy that is focused on feeding educated people into making AI chips and Language Models instead of furthering research in other fields as the #1 priority.
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Old 10-29-2025, 12:08 PM
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Hot take, but it's at least an educated take: Capitalism actually BAD for technological progress. Because the bottom line and investor returns are the only thing that matter.
This has made every single technological breakthrough.

Except for the atomic bomb and eugenic concentration camps.

Those are the only 2 contributions to scientific progress socialism has contributed to.
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Old 10-29-2025, 12:25 PM
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What sorta work do you do, mister shovel?
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Old 10-29-2025, 12:41 PM
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I worked for someone for my whole life and that provided me the time to spend with my family who are now doing the same for theirs.

What your generation called being a slave, provided nothing but freedom for me.

My generations terms of success was a lot less than yours though. We were happy being a nobody.
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Old 10-29-2025, 12:52 PM
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look at how these capitalists are targeting the poorest of the poors to sell them snake oil.

for just 20,000 you can buy this hunk of shit.

why does capitalism exploit the poor

https://x.com/BerntBornich/status/1983235110729330705

(Whats really happening, is rich people are paying for dog crap, so that poor people who cant afford stay at home nurses, can have those soon.)

Socialism would just put those old people in a dungeon so they can give the house to a young person.
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Old 10-29-2025, 01:15 PM
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lol life imitates art: https://youtu.be/LTYMWadOW7c?t=194

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Old 10-29-2025, 01:41 PM
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The last thing we're all gonna see.

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Old 10-29-2025, 03:08 PM
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the face looks creepy as fuck

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Neo will eventually do things autonomously, but for now, much of its actions are controlled by expert teleoperators in VR headsets
also, fuuuuuck that.
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Old 10-29-2025, 03:18 PM
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the face looks creepy as fuck

also, fuuuuuck that.
It'd reallyl be no differant than hiring a housekeeper or a contractor or a bug exterminator or a phone technician or a...

Also handicap people can now do that to make money from home, that sounds great! At least until the robots can do it on their own then we can stop doing jobs.

honestly, it sounds like a great idea to outsource work to 3rd world countries and stop immigration at the same time, win win for both sides of the fence lol

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Old 10-29-2025, 03:57 PM
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your right, i just don't like the presentation

head should have a screen that shows the face of the person controlling it
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