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Old 10-23-2025, 12:53 PM
Snaggles Snaggles is offline
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In my experience it takes precisely 1 raid, and more specifically less than 1 hour of 1 raid to have a very good sense of the culture of a guild. Just like a business or a sports team, culture is pervasive in how the organization operates and what it values. There is a reason people place high regard on first impressions and there is a reason why you can easily link winning and losing organizations back to their culture.

I have yet to have an experience in raiding, sports, or business where my initial impression of the culture of an organization was proven wrong and I don't think I'm special. I view it as a gross undervaluing of the human race to assert that people are incapable of assessing the environment they are in, and do it in short order.
Much of what was said is up to personal opinion. Culture and the like.

The comments on epics, HoT and the rest is just objectively false. Those things happen frequently.

My comment on raid attendance was not intended to knock their status but demonstrate it’s likely they aren’t around much. I’m not certain they can gain a full picture of a guilds nature or activities. Especially when much of that post was a biting critique of what raiding with said guild is like, despite doing exceptionally little of it.
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Old 10-23-2025, 03:35 PM
WarpathEQ WarpathEQ is offline
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Much of what was said is up to personal opinion. Culture and the like.

The comments on epics, HoT and the rest is just objectively false. Those things happen frequently.

My comment on raid attendance was not intended to knock their status but demonstrate it’s likely they aren’t around much. I’m not certain they can gain a full picture of a guilds nature or activities. Especially when much of that post was a biting critique of what raiding with said guild is like, despite doing exceptionally little of it.
As someone previously pointed out them not being around much is an outcome of the situation. That would be like being surprised that the customer that came to your tree farm and lost 2 fingers in the machine you use to wrap the tree didn't come back and using that as a basis for calling them a bad customer. They didn't come back because you run a shitty and dangerous business that cost them 2 fingers that the can never get back.

The phrase "actions speak louder than words" rings loud and clear. There is no better feedback about how shitty your guild is than players leaving. This one just happen to go out of their way and spend some extra time explaining to you all the reasons why your guild is shitty and people are leaving it.
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Old 10-23-2025, 04:02 PM
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As someone previously pointed out them not being around much is an outcome of the situation. That would be like being surprised that the customer that came to your tree farm and lost 2 fingers in the machine you use to wrap the tree didn't come back and using that as a basis for calling them a bad customer. They didn't come back because you run a shitty and dangerous business that cost them 2 fingers that the can never get back.

The phrase "actions speak louder than words" rings loud and clear. There is no better feedback about how shitty your guild is than players leaving. This one just happen to go out of their way and spend some extra time explaining to you all the reasons why your guild is shitty and people are leaving it.
Well, I have a LOT of context here about the message and messenger but don’t need to light up the person about it. I expect they believe all that stuff is true. I believe they never liked the fact that the guild merged…but that happened.

A number of people from Kittens and Riot joined Fuse during the merge but were not really into the concept from the beginning. A few left, a few stayed, most adapted and came around to enjoy it. To date, no fingers have been severed. I don’t think this one testament is a reason why anyone has left the guild, in fact, they haven’t even left the guild.
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Old 10-24-2025, 06:59 PM
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As someone previously pointed out them not being around much is an outcome of the situation. That would be like being surprised that the customer that came to your tree farm and lost 2 fingers in the machine you use to wrap the tree didn't come back and using that as a basis for calling them a bad customer. They didn't come back because you run a shitty and dangerous business that cost them 2 fingers that the can never get back.
Hyperbolic. At worst, the customer was given the finger. But even going along with the premise, losing fingers, the customer would sue in that case and provide evidence.

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The phrase "actions speak louder than words" rings loud and clear. There is no better feedback about how shitty your guild is than players leaving. This one just happen to go out of their way and spend some extra time explaining to you all the reasons why your guild is shitty and people are leaving it.
They really didn't spend extra time. The majority of Yelp reviews are more thorough and yet a single dining experience cannot always meet or exceed expectations. The chefs might be great, but the waiters are rude, or vice versa.

Whatever the negative experience, no reason not to substantiate those claims, especially when it's stated so definitively. Logs, screenshots, anything. Doesn't have to be Detoxx levels of bad. But if it left such a lasting impression, let the behavior speak for itself.
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