Daybreak sues THJ

[shovelquest]

Originally Posted by sammoHung [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

For me, it wasn't just them making money - it was all the tricks and tactics they've used since the lawsuit started to remove negative comments, put on a facade towards their donors, and generally just act like grifters.

All of their arguments in court fell flat. Probably more because their lawyers were out of their league against DBG lawyers. But - they have done alot of damage to their reputation in the eyes of many by removing (mostly valid) criticisms of their business plan.

They also really sneakily, as someone here pointed out, tried to get an agreement with Daybreak by lying about the nature of The Heroes Journey.

They are grifters. They may not have started as grifters - but once the money started flowing in - they played by every rule in the grifter handbook.

lmao I just sent them another 100$ with a thank you from sammohung.

[Computer Man]

Originally Posted by shovelquest [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

lmao I just sent them another 100$ with a thank you from sammohung.

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[Sadre Spinegnawer]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Everything is relative, but arguably $100k a month is rookie numbers for a gaming company. See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...ies_by_revenue

Even the 80th company on that list (maker of series like Shadow Warrior and Serious Sam) makes $106 million annually.

Now, that's a little apples and oranges, since I think that studio has more games than Daybreak (although if you count expansions, maybe they're close?). But my point is, they're not doing all that great if their revenue is $1.2k million annually, and the 80th biggest game company is making two orders of magnitude more every year.

How many people work directly and solely on this IP?

One? Two? If someone says, "no, closer to a dozen," then where does their paycheck come from?

"Revenue of 1.2 million annually"? And that's with all the money traps the servers on live can sustain? The annual TLP krono dump?

We here do all our shit and that's because the entire mmo space is kind of like a music scene -- people driven. But it is very funky to think all the hoopla is about something that in reality barely merits two salaries worth of human labor.

[shovelquest]

MMOs suck today because the impetus is on investment firms getting a ROI

Instead of 2 dudes making their dream game.

[zelld52]

Originally Posted by shovelquest [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

MMOs suck today because the impetus is on investment firms getting a ROI

Instead of 2 dudes making their dream game.

what about when 2 dudes making their dream game, solely using IP created by a handful of dudes 25 years ago?

[kjs86z2]

Originally Posted by shovelquest [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Instead of 2 shut-ins making their dream game copied from one of the most popular titles of all time with a built in cash shop to pad their wallets.

[Xathos53]

The two dudes' dream game was copied from someone else's property and altered so the two dudes' dream game would compete financially with the owner of the copied property in the same marketplace.

Were it just an emu, then it would have read like so: The two dudes' dream game was copied from someone else's property and altered so the two dudes' dream game could be played with their friends.

[shovelquest]

Guys, they are not implying they created the artwork themselves.

What the hell is wrong with these people.

You are all literally stealing everquest right now.

[zelld52]

"you wouldn't download a car"

yes i fuckin would. what torrent link lets me download a car

[Reiwa]

Originally Posted by Xathos53 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The two dudes' dream game was copied from someone else's property and altered so the two dudes' dream game would compete financially with the owner of the copied property in the same marketplace.

Were it just an emu, then it would have read like so: The two dudes' dream game was copied from someone else's property and altered so the two dudes' dream game could be played with their friends.

If Warren Buffet bought Qwik Trip, would the Piggly Wiggly be forced to go out of business?