Daybreak sues THJ

[sammoHung]

Originally Posted by Tann [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I listened to several of the Q&A sessions they did on stream and they all genuinely sounded like people who loved EQ and wanted to create something new and fun. Pity they had to ruin a good thing by being greedy af

Agreed. Greed gets us all. All except Rogaen and Nilbog, of course - our benevolent caretakers.

[kjs86z2]

rip thj

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

Originally Posted by sammoHung [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Agreed. Greed gets us all. All except Rogaen and Nilbog, of course - our benevolent caretakers.

Credit where credit is due, frankly.

I can't even play on live TLP's anymore, but maybe I shouldn't say that. Live hasn't been classic for nearly 2 decades JFC.

I can log on right now, roll a character, and do a decent facsimile of classic.

This isn't about nostalgia for me anymore, it's about game design. Nostalgia was last decade lol.

[shovelquest]

they would have been shut down with EoM or not.

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[Tann]

disagree on that^

without all the cash made from those EoM's, there would be no quantitative evidence that daybreak was losing revenue to THJ.

[shovelquest]

Originally Posted by Tann [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

disagree on that^

without all the cash made from those EoM's, there would be no quantitative evidence that daybreak was losing revenue to THJ.

I know that seems like it makes sense but they lost 30k+ users that were active on THJ. That they could have said to the court would have played on their fang breaker, and the court would be like, "yes that is correct"

Because they are literally playing their IP for free somewhere else.

Thats enough to get anything shut down.

[shovelquest]

What should have happened, was THJ should have reached out to DBG a lot earlier, and started building a relationship that would have resulted in THJ being on the liver server select, or free to exist like P99.

Or what also should have happened is the investment capital firm should have encouraged DBG to enter into an agreement to absorb THJ into the live servers and acquired the two devs that made it to manage it.

[shovelquest]

And i want to be clear, I accidentally said, "could have said to the court"

But actually "they DID say that to the court"

[Ekco]

>there would be no quantitative evidence that daybreak was losing revenue to THJ.
is the evidence even needed really?

in ages past EQ's ip holder has sent out C&D based solely on a project being popular and using the IP, i forget the exact wording but both Winter's Roar and EQClassic got threatened with legal action over i assume just in theory siphoning potential customers away by making a superior product with the assets

[shovelquest]

Originally Posted by Ekco [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

>there would be no quantitative evidence that daybreak was losing revenue to THJ.
is the evidence even needed really?

in ages past EQ's ip holder has sent out C&D based solely on a project being popular and using the IP, i forget the exact wording but both Winter's Roar and EQClassic got threatened with legal action over i assume just in theory siphoning potential customers away by making a superior product with the assets

It is absolutely not needed. If they gave it away for free, that doesn't mean they get to just keep eating up Live's subscribers.