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Old 08-26-2025, 07:04 AM
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Isn't there an argument for AC if focusing on solo(which you should as a pally). Forget what the knight one is i've heard like 1200 minimum or something makes a huge difference.
AC is mob level capped. It was found for level 45 mobs you capped at 200 worn AC. So depending on the content you do you might want a little more but outside raiding there's no point in piling it sky high past a certain point.
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Old 08-26-2025, 05:18 PM
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AC is mob level capped. It was found for level 45 mobs you capped at 200 worn AC. So depending on the content you do you might want a little more but outside raiding there's no point in piling it sky high past a certain point.
True, but I'm not aware of anyone showing what the AC cap is for mobs in the 50+ zones like Seb, Velks, Chardok, KC, Hole, etc. Also, that was a level 40 mob, not 45. And given that the classes I parsed on were ranger, cleric, druid, I think we need someone on one of the three tank classes to contribute some parses before saying the whole AC-cap theory is anything more than provisional.

Until you hit the AC cap for what you're fighting solo I suspect AC is gonna be the most useful stat to increase. But if parsing shows a hit distribution with <3-5% max hits, it's likely adding more AC won't provide much benefit.
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Old 08-26-2025, 07:27 PM
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True, but I'm not aware of anyone showing what the AC cap is for mobs in the 50+ zones like Seb, Velks, Chardok, KC, Hole, etc. Also, that was a level 40 mob, not 45. And given that the classes I parsed on were ranger, cleric, druid, I think we need someone on one of the three tank classes to contribute some parses before saying the whole AC-cap theory is anything more than provisional.

Until you hit the AC cap for what you're fighting solo I suspect AC is gonna be the most useful stat to increase. But if parsing shows a hit distribution with <3-5% max hits, it's likely adding more AC won't provide much benefit.
Frost giant escort is 45. Those parses showed 200ac cap on ranger/war/sk IIRC. Only difference between classes was due to avoidance, presumably due to different defense values. I thought your parses on Shiel showed a 180ac cap?

Most high end exp content done nowadays seem to revolve around mid 40s to low 50s so that's why a said you might want a bit more than 200ac depending on content but yeah, I'm not aware anyone parsed beyond level 40. Seems logical but could be wrong.

Started leveling my ranger again but it will be a long time before I can parse mobs 50+.
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Old 08-26-2025, 09:54 PM
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Frost giant escort is 45. Those parses showed 200ac cap on ranger/war/sk IIRC. Only difference between classes was due to avoidance, presumably due to different defense values. I thought your parses on Shiel showed a 180ac cap?
Ah you're right.

I just looked at my fights against sonic bats and LDCs in SolB, and I was AC capped or just-about. Magelo's up to date but I haven't calculated worn ac. Hope to have some data against WL geos and hunter/forager in TT soon.
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Old 08-27-2025, 10:30 AM
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Ah you're right.

I just looked at my fights against sonic bats and LDCs in SolB, and I was AC capped or just-about. Magelo's up to date but I haven't calculated worn ac. Hope to have some data against WL geos and hunter/forager in TT soon.
Our rangers have almost identical gear, mine is sitting at 193ac right now, I went a little bit more str/hp heavy. I find EC geared it is "easy" to get to 200ac worn but getting to like 250ac from EC gear is difficult/costly without serious sacrifice from other stats. Probably a bit easier for a plate class like a pally. Not exactly sure how the AC from buffs gets counted either and I know pally has some of those so that might move the worn AC target down.
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