Is warrior aggro greatly exaggerated?

[Lampolo]

Originally Posted by Goregasmic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It is 70 mana every 4 ticks (so every 3 ticks) and when they wake up they will be VERY angry at you so you need to fetter everything down (75mana) and if one breaks free it is a 125mana color slant and then a 200 mana bedlam refresh. It aint much but it adds up.

So you want me to sit down and med or you want me up managing trash, which is it?

I don't mind managing mobs in camp especially if it means more loot/exp but you can't argue it is more effective from a ressource standpoint than getting singles where I can just tash and slow then sit down.

Why are you describing how you like to solo? We are talking about a trio where there are two others that need to be contributing for efficiency. Half the dungeon is dead by the time you isolate, tash and slow one mob.

[Lampolo]

Originally Posted by Ennewi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Monk even tanked Lady M recently. Held aggro, didn't die, went on to pull. This is the game.

I once heard of an ench tanking AoW. Monks aint got shit on ench tanks

[Nitestroke]

Originally Posted by Goregasmic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It is 70 mana every 4 ticks (so every 3 ticks) and when they wake up they will be VERY angry at you so you need to fetter everything down (75mana) and if one breaks free it is a 125mana color slant and then a 200 mana bedlam refresh. It aint much but it adds up.

So you want me to sit down and med or you want me up managing trash, which is it?

I don't mind managing mobs in camp especially if it means more loot/exp but you can't argue it is more effective from a ressource standpoint than getting singles where I can just tash and slow then sit down.

You exposed yourself as such a low level newb here. Unless ur fighting giants, fetter should not be used for cc by Enchanter. Also you clearly don't understand how aggro works or how to deal with aggro if your mezzed mobs are going to attack you. I'd give you the solution but you don't deserve it, keep rooting like a shaman cleric druid wizard necro paladin, and keep telling yourself you know anything about ench cc. When ench load root, its like tattooing newb on the forehead. Its gross that you love giving advice but don't have the goods. Better to put a sock in it bro

[Goregasmic]

Originally Posted by Nitestroke [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You exposed yourself as such a low level newb here. Unless ur fighting giants, fetter should not be used for cc by Enchanter. Also you clearly don't understand how aggro works or how to deal with aggro if your mezzed mobs are going to attack you. I'd give you the solution but you don't deserve it, keep rooting like a shaman cleric druid wizard necro paladin, and keep telling yourself you know anything about ench cc. When ench load root, its like tattooing newb on the forehead. Its gross that you love giving advice but don't have the goods. Better to put a sock in it bro

Ok buddy, you're the one looking like a raging neckbeard not contributing anything to the thread but we'll just assume you're the EQ god.

Good luck with that spiroc feather.

[Nitestroke]

Originally Posted by Goregasmic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ok buddy, you're the one looking like a raging neckbeard not contributing anything to the thread but we'll just assume you're the EQ god.

Good luck with that spiroc feather.

Good luck coping after getting exposed so clearly haha ur sequence u described on how you would react as ench was shameful at best.
Im not contributing anything according to you only, and we learned that you have no real knowledge so I can live with that
Spiroc feather? Got that for a friend a long time ago, I love how ur going into my posts stalking me to aid your losing debate somehow. Man get a grip

[Lampolo]

Lol the spiroc feather has deep esoteric meaning tho

[Lampolo]

You guys got him real good there

[zelld52]

Originally Posted by Nitestroke [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I call total bs on this. Similar gear level, as if you confirmed that. Get that sweaty ass outta here with ur bs.

If only there were a built-in way to inspect someone's gear. Hrm, does anybody know if that exists in game?

[Zuranthium]

Originally Posted by Lampolo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Snap aggro worthless in chant/clr/tank trio

Originally Posted by Lampolo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Monk can’t taunt or interrupt spells and they don’t have defensive. These are much needed when clearing difficult mobs. A war/clr/ench trio in late 50’s can hold 3+ ph’s in HS south and keep all the spawns down in between. Monk can’t do that.

You're contradicting yourself. Why are you talking about taunt if snap aggro is worthless? Kinda embarrassing in the first place, given the success rate of taunt on high level MOBs. Bash is not something that can be relied on either.

Unless we're talking these melee having weak gear, which makes defensive relatively more valuable, then Monk should be able to keep everything cleared.

Originally Posted by Lampolo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Warrior is the best 3rd man in that trio for xp

What a joke. Warrior is not at all the best 3rd to go with an Enchanter and Cleric. Having a 2nd Enchanter is obviously the highest raw amount of power, but if you don't want to risk the double charm break, then ideally you still want the charm pet tanking as much as possible to utilize Cheal, which means a pet class as the 3rd.

[Goregasmic]

Originally Posted by Nitestroke [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Good luck coping after getting exposed so clearly haha ur sequence u described on how you would react as ench was shameful at best.

Works well for anything not summoning and summoning stuff not yet damaged. AE mez stops the clock for 24sec and lets be honest, at this point in the game ain't nobody got time for splitting shit if you don't have to. Root protects me and healers/ranged while giving a hand to tanks, NOTABLY WARRIORS. Rooting shit down can be unnecessary but it is almost always considered good practice in general, less chaos if something goes wrong. Also works first time almost every time compared to blur. Chaining AE mez is suboptimal for aggro generation and a coarse tool for sure but it usually stops everything the second the pull gets into camp while remezzing stuff that might have gotten broken in potential confusion. It is also faster because it saves you from having to target the right mob. Ideally you'll let the puller get beaten on and single target mez everything but depending on group composition and player skill I'd rather waste my mana than waste the healer's mana. In general I just always have AE mez memmed anyway because on a bad pet break stun + AE mez will save your bum and the short timer gets your pet back in the game quickly. When there are few mobs left or the camp doesn't call for AE mez I'll usually keep a single target memmed.

Mobs 56+ single mez and blur is more effective for obvious reasons but at that point you're much less prone to be grouped with people who fuck up.

If you have better ideas I'm all ears, my group game could most likely improve but I don't think tanks can complain under my watch as I try make it easier for everyone.